Monzon vs Valdez or Hagler vs Mugabi

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  1. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They would. The general consensus would be interesting. It's funny though that Sims is probably the least famous, yet probably the most accomplished?
     
  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Valdez took over Monzon's mantle as the world's best middle. Not so for Mugabi.
     
  3. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valdez, he was a better MW than Mugabi.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hagler thew more bombs at Hearns in those three rounds than he did at Mugabi in the first three rounds of that bout, he was more cagey v Mugabi in the first three rounds, he threw more jabs at Mugabi that he did v Hearns. Hearns hurt Hagler at the start of their bout while Mugabi never hurt Marvin.
     
  5. Clinton

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    Hags had been slowing down considerably since the Roldan fight, and that was quite evident. Rocky was a level above The Beast and that was quite evident as well. So my evident pick is Escopeta Rocky
     
  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh baloney,,Marvin went after Hearns because he knew he couldn't take it .. Hagler never went after anyone like that., Hagler was more wary of Mugabi than Hearns , let that sink in. Hagler said after an early exchange with Mugabi that he was very strong and he knew he was going to have to break him down. As I said Mugabi soaked up far more punishment than Hearns did
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Marvin went after Hearns because he knew he couldn't outbox him (reach, speed, ATG jab) and he didn't want to let him dictate like he did against Duran. He crowded the tall gangly big puncher which in most cases is the best strategy. There was also a genuine dislike of each other at that exact stage.
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    lol! He went after Hearns like that cause that`s the only way he could beat him, Tommy was landing more than Mugabi and was throwing more leads while Mugabi was just countering.
     
  9. Mark Dunham

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    I'm really surprised at how quickly the two of them declined and how drastic it was. There was virtually nothing left of them. Hagler lost to Ray Leonard and Mugabi to Duane Thomas
     
  10. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Thomas fight really ****ed Mugabi up though, and probably robbed of 4-6 years of success.
     
  11. Flash24

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    Valdez didn't fight Marvin Hagler. Many Middleweight champions that version of Mugabi on that night Mugabi defeats.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Mugabi was thumbed in the eye by Thomas.
     
  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    As another very talented poster put it, John The Beast Mugabi did age then World Middleweight Champion Marvelous Marvin Hagler on March 10 1986 in Las Vegas, Nevada, prior to the showdown with Sugar Ray Leonard on April 6 1987. Then World Middleweight Champion Carkos Monzon fought WBC Middleweight Champion Rodrigo Valdes on June 26 1976 in Monte Carlo, Monaco for the undisputed title. Monzon knocked down Valdes in round 14 and won the unanimous 15 round decision. On July 30 1977, they both fought again in Monte Carlo, Monaco. Rodrigo decked Carlos in round 2, but was clearly beaten in 15 rounds, again Carlos won the unanimous verdict to retain his title for the 14 th time. Monzon retired with the title on Aug 29 1977, after a 7 year reign as champion. Both Mugabi vs Hagler and Monzon vs Valdes were great fights.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    soft upper cut by Monzon 2:00 jab lands from Valdez 2:07. That`s all that was landed in the first round of the Monzon v Valdez rematch, Monzon was missing a lot and Valdez had slow hands and wasn`t as sharp as Mugabi who was just waiting to counter v Hagler all night.
     
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