Moore v R.Jones at heavy or light heavyweight who could have won era for era?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I think Moore was far better than Jones defensively which would have given him a big edge at light heavy and maybe at heavyweight too, so who would win this fantasy bout even though Moore was a lot older when he fought at heavy?
     
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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Moore would KO Jones later on, around 8 - 10 rounds after a very tight contest IMO.
     
  3. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Moore after getting outboxed gets his timing and range right and eventually starts landing on Roy.

    Moore by TKO probably in the latter stages or maybe earlier

    Registered 4 years and 4 posts made, I look forward to your 5th post next year.
     
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  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Haha thanks for the compliment. I'm mostly a lurker (as youve seen) but I'd like to contribute to the forum. I've learnt a lot from the posters here.
     
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  5. TBI

    TBI Active Member Full Member

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    I'm interested to hear how Moore's defense was far better than Jones'...
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Sometimes less is moore.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I didn`t like Roy`s defense, Moore moved his head off center much more and efffectively Jones used to move back with a lose guard too much, he got exposed by Griffin in their first fight, he got caught on the ropes too much, Griffin would have missed more v more and as for Jones coming out blasting in the rematch Moore could have done that v Griffin also. Jones did have a good defensive move where he would throw the straight right while instantly rolling his moving his head and body away and under to avoid a counter, this would help him v Moore, but he didn`t use this move once against Griffin.
     
  8. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here's something interesting ...a lot of those old timers who actually saw Charley Burley,said he was a lot like Roy Jones . Archie Moore said in his own words that "Charley Burley gave me the worst beating of my life " .... like i said interesting
     
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  9. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones Jr. was a gifted athlete that happened to be a boxer. He relied on excellent, beyond excellent reflexes for his defense. The minute those excellent reflexes started to dim, well we saw the results,,,, multiple times, sometimes against 2nd and 3rd rate fighters. Moore was technically superior because even when his reflexes slowed, he fell back on proper hand placement, being able to parry and block punches,also he knew how to roll with punches. Moore fought professionally for almost 30yrs and was competitive almost the entire length of his career. A fighter doesn't have his kind of success by accident. On a fight between the two, especially at the 15rd limit, I'd favor Moore to do what none could in Jones prime. And that is figure him out, slow him down, knock him out between 12-15th rd, probably coming from behind to do it. Jones saw some good punchers, but he never saw a fighter with the combination of skills and power Moore possessed.
     
  10. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But I’m his prime he DID have Those reflexes and if you are facing a prime Roy Jones then that’s what’s in front of you. Thomas Hearns wouldn’t have been the same fighter if he wasn’t so tall...but he was
     
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  11. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When I study tape of a fighter I’m not looking for mistakes,I’m looking for habits...because anyone can make mistakes in a fight.= Freddie Roach when he was preparing for Pacquiao vs Cotto
     
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  12. TBI

    TBI Active Member Full Member

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    I agree Moore's defense had more longevity, but the Jones in question isn't the one with faded reflexes.
    We're talking about defense, which is which guy took more punches, and in that way, I disagree and say that is Roy.

    Moore most definitely got hit more in fights. Say what you will about what happened when Roy lost his reflexes and his chin, etc... Bottom line is who got tagged more?

    Moore had a style that was more physical, closer. He got hit more.

    That's my only point.

    As for who wins, thats tough. Hard to argue against Moore here. More proven. He couldn't do a thing with Charles in 3 tries though. Got beat by good boxers, so it isn't a given he beats Roy either.
     
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  13. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Moore fought Jones when Jones wasn't in his prime, that would be a homicide. Of course I'm talking prime vs prime for both fighters over the 15rd distance. A 12rd fight, I'm sure Jones could win a dec.
     
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