You know i might be pandering to what that hack Pachilles thinks of me, but i was watching the legendary Kalule vs Villa again earlier and it dawned on me....Marquez is just a poor man's defensively unskilled version of Villa.the columbian a man completely forgotten and who never even won a title because of some formidable opponents in his way.Amazing how things can work out. so with nothing left to say...Villa UD MArquez.
He was stong and rugged and a very big FW but pretty basic, I really didn't rate him, gutted when the ****er stopped Brodie though :| I also heard he retired because he didn't fancy his mandatory
he was defo world class when it come to the ultimate assessment though, regardless of technique or whatever it may be. He was just way too much for Brodie, you knew going into that rematch that he was too strong for him and when he just started smashing him it wasn't all too nice to watch. Michael Brodie was a warrior, and a good fighter himself.
Brodie was a better boxer than Chi, just too small at FW for a rehydrated LWW, same when he fought Harrison. First fight was a hell of war though, great fight, sadly Brodie was making less for that great war than Hatton was making for hisWBU knock over jobs, Brodie was technically allot better than Hatton
I don't go off weights on fight night, they were both featherweights and nobody cheated. I'm aware of the ins and outs of rehydrating to maximise size advantage on fight night so save me the lecture my man. Nobody cheated.
As if I'm even going to bother responding on these issues to someone I know who ranks Juan Manuel Marquez higher than Alexis Arguello all-time. I don't take you seriously on this subject-matter at all after making that statement. If ever there's been a case of clear-cut delusion based on personal affections it's that.
Have you even seen the Morales-Espadas fight ? Morales won a close fight, gift my ass.... also, Chi proved to be a very good fighter & Morales was the only one to beat him in his prime & he did it clearly, there was no dispute. I know Morales is far from your fav fighter & it annoys you the worship he receives on the general forum but lets keep it real, he was a brilliant fighter & an ATG of the sport.... he was better than those guys & proved it.
You're a ****wit who never followed boxing when Marquez/Morales were prime, you clearly haven't watched most their fights and you won't respond because that's obviously being exposed, your knowledge of Morales/Marquez is limited to the times they fought each other/Pacman and boxrec, beyond that you're lost, you're just a ******* who's followed boxing a couple of years and are bigging up Morales to boost Pacquaio despite Raheem owning the same version, you're opinion = invalid. You're embarrassed yourself in this thread to anyone who's seen the fights you've commented on Bill I know you love Morales, great fighter and not a bad one to be your fave fighter but to say your judgement on him is clouded is an understatement. Yes I watched it at the time, I thought Espadas clinched it late, close fight indeed, robbery is an exagerration of mine, Espadas landed more though I'm actually a Morales fan, hes a great great fighter, I just have a backlash against the nuthuggery and myths posted about him on forums. I'm a fan of Morales, MAB and Marquez, all greats. As for being annoyed, Marquez being underrated annoys me the most!!! No one cheated, Chi won based on saunas not skill
Who mentioned skill? Chi won based on strength and knocking the **** out of Brodie. Credit to Chi. are you really doing this PP? You're a good poster you ****ing mad man
I did, I said Brodie was the better boxer, I was referring to skills, I didn't say he didn't lose fair and square (although the first fight could have gone his way at a push and it was a comeback of a lionheart), he probably should have stayed at 122 though with the size he was, Chi was just too big and strong for him. If they both rehydrated to the same weight, then Brodie wins A couple of tidbits for you though, Hamed if he could lose the weight and if Brodie won was supposed to come back, he couldn't lose the weight though. Chi was going to fight Pacquaio in Asia, it fell through
Skill isn't everytihng man. Chi was a strong man, he was a swarmer and he used it, I can't just say for sure that all of his strength advantages came from the rehydration, it may just be that he was a strong ****er!. I'm giving him my full credit. Brodie was quality though, a warrior, fine skills, fine body shots, very unfortunate how his title aspirations turned out, what with the Jorrin fight and that. I remember after the Chi rematch when he was stopped and the interviewer asked him if he was dissapointed or something about not ever being a champion and he flipped out saying 'what, I've been a champion', meaning the WBU or IBO or whatever it was that he had, but he was all knotted up with emotion when he said it like, I felt gutted for him. I never knew that other stuff you said, so we could have potentially had Hamed-Brodie and Chi-Pacquiao? Wow the latter would have been a war.