Morales came to Fight... Barrera came to survive

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  1. joito3

    joito3 Active Member Full Member

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    barerra fought like a baby
     
  2. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I also kept thinking of Jones in his third Tarver fight. And just like last night, Tarver was there to be taken that night, but Roy wasn't willing to take the chances.

    The difference is that Barrera was coming off a very competitive performance against Marquez, whereas Jones had been starched by Johnson. MAB's performance was less predictable.
     
  3. MrStayman

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    Yup. In my opinion, he either should not have taken the fight, or should have shown a desire to win. He let down millions of viewers.
     
  4. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol this is ******ed. your going to hate on someone from keeping from getting knocked the **** out. cuz yea thats totally manly and warrior like to get the **** beat out of you pointlessly
     
  5. MrStayman

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    We don't hate Barrera because he didn't get knocked out. We are dissapointed because he didn't make any noticeable attempt to win after the first couple of rounds. He knew he was behind on points, and instead of fighting harder, he decided to take the loss and just survive.
     
  6. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    everytime he managed to mount a decent offenside he ended up hurt at the end of the exchange. he was waiting around for pac to make a mistake. its not like he ran from him.
     
  7. EpsilonAxis

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    Morales can always say that when it came down to it...he beat Manny Pacquiao's ass that one night. That was a beautiful fight.

    Fanny Pac should fight Marquez...the real danger out there for him right now...
     
  8. Lampley

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    That fight has to happen. I didn't even want Pac/Barrera II. Pac should win if he is focused, but he'll have to be better than he was last night. He got hit with some big punches from someone who wasn't really looking to land big punches.
     
  9. 41fever

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    good tactical fight where MAB looked better technically and Pac was very sloppy...I thought MAB outclassed the Pinoy. Pac vs JMM 2 NEEDS to happen, then go for GUZMAN - SOTO winner...actually Juarez - PAC would be fun cuz Pac will be the agressor...130 is hot

    135 against Casa or Juan would be scary for PAC
     
  10. huki

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    A lot of morons in here..

    An old legend and one of the greatest ring warriors of this era who has given boxing fans numerous great fights decides to box against an extremely dangerous pressure fighter during his prime in his last fight and people question his toughness? You're making it seem like he ran for 12 rounds. He boxed very well and exchanged punches on many occasions. He just didn't throw a lot of punches and knew that he couldn't get into an all out brawl that would make him end up destroyed like Morales.

    **** all of you who say that Barrera doesn't have balls. You're probably the same people who think the Gatti-Ward fights are the greatest fights ever and they're the toughest fighters ever. Any boxing fan with minimal knowledge and half a brain wouldn't even think about calling Barrera a *****.
     
  11. MrStayman

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    Your post would be a lot better and more convincing if you removed the bold text.

    Anyways, if he wasn't going to try for the KO when behind, why take the fight? He must of known that there was only a small chance of outpointing PAC if he only threw a few punches a round.

    In world class boxing, where fans pay $50 just to watch you fight, you have a duty to try as hard as possible to win. Fighters with a will to win don't give up as soon as they fall behind on points. Barrera would have never fought like that in his younger days.

    He does not get brownie points just for choosing a tough opponent. Spinks didn't get brownie points for fighting the bigger man in Taylor.
     
  12. TanstA

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    A ***** in the fight, yes. But it doesn't matter, he wanted the fight, he got it, he did what he wanted to do and at the end of the day he was happy.
     
  13. MrStayman

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    Pac also got hurt from some exchanges. There were a few times when Pac got stunned, but MAB just backed off. Do you remember in the earlier rounds when Pac got stunned for about a second and a half from a huge hook, but MAB had already backed off? If Barrera was more aggressive, that COULD have been a KD.

    Saying that he was "waiting for Pac to make a mistake" is just a sugar coated version of the truth. Pac did make mistakes, and was stunned, but MAB showed no intention of taking any risks.
     
  14. huki

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    I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that he could have given it a little more yesterday, even though he's old. People here are just disrespecting him completely. They're acting as if he left the ring in his last match as a ***** and that's what they'll remember him as.

    Barrera took this fight because he was embarassed about the first fight and he thought he could do much better this time. He did well, but he felt weak at this point in his career against a great fighter in his prime and brawling with Pacquiao completely during the last 2 rounds would be a stupid thing to do, especially because it would have led to him getting KO'ed like in the first fight. I already said that I felt like he didn't give it his all in this fight, but considering all that he's been through he even surprised me with how well he did. I'd rather see Barrera box well for 12 rounds but look old rather than see him brawl for a few rounds and get destroyed like Morales did.

    And by the way, there were a lot of great exchanges in this fight and I don't think it was a boring fight at all. People just expect nothing less than an all out war when they watch Manny and MAB in ring, so that's why it didn't live up to the expectations. Barrera fought really tough yesterday and you can't argue with that.. he just looked old and not as confident as he used to be.
     
  15. EpsilonAxis

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    I remember thinking Pac won although barely against Marquez the first time.

    But rewatching, I thought Marquez really won it. He made Pac look just as bad, maybe worse, than Morales did. I remember hearing Freddie Roach thought Marquez was a TERRIBLE style fight for Pac.

    I think Marquez would win the rematch...he made Pac look flat out foolish for a number of rounds. He exploits something that Pac still has wrong...bad footwork. Marquez could definitely pull the upset, and now with his win over MAB, it should happen.