Morales, MAB ... Oscar

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IMO their all probably around the same bracket, whichever you rate them on. Top 60/50/40 etc... You can say Oscar should be higher than both morales & MAB because of who he faced but its also who he beat.

 

No, both were ATGs before that.

Let's pretend Morales wasn't ATG at the time against Barrera, then by your train of thought, Barrera can't be acclaimed ATG for beating Morales, when he already was before facing Morales in the first place. It just reinforced, or enhanced if you will, his position.

 

Interesting perspective but fighters are judged mainly on who they beat, not on who they fought. And if you were gonna list close fights as wins you might aswell list JMM for MAB too. I also find it interesting that you have Quartey a "great" win for ODLH yet dont have Junior Jones as one for Morales despite Jones having achieved more than Quartey.

The real list is more like:

Morales
Great fights:
Pacman
MAB (close) x3
Good fights:
Zaragoza (OLD)
Junior Jones
Pocket Rocket
Jesus Chavez
Famozo Hernandez
Kevin Kelly
In Jin Chi (close)
Poly Ayala (above prime weight)
Wayne Mcullough


Barrera
Great fights:
Morales (close) x3
Hamed
Good fights:
McKinney
Kevin Kelly (OLD)
Tapia (above prime weight)
Poly Ayala (above prime weight)
Rocky Juarez
Robbie Peden
Agapito Sanchez

ODLH
Great fights:

Good fights:
Quartey (close)
Whitaker (close)
JC Chavez (OLD) x2
Camacho (OLD)
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Oba Carr
Rafael Ruelas
Vargas
Mayorga
Campas (OLD)
Paez (OLD)
Molina (above prime weight)
Hernandez (above prime weight)
Leija (above prime weight)

Like I said, ODLH gets credit for all his close fights with other greats and of sheer number of good opponents. However based on actual wins, those 3 are very close to each other.

 

mab and oscar pretty even, morales just slightly behind, only my opinion (little bias)

 

I'd say they be all pretty close to each other.. Morales & Barrera are about even in my opinion.. I'd rank DLH a little bit behind those two.. Anywhere between maybe 80-100 maybe??

 

I wonder what a breakdown of PBF and Pac's resumes would look like using the same standards!

 

****in objetive post. Good job.

 

Who did Quartey beat that was remotely as great as MAB? Case closed.

1 win, 2 wins...to be honest I didnt even bother looking at that as I was just counting amount of names, not amount of times over the same name.

I did give it. If I didnt give it I would have said MAB & Morales rank well above ODLH simply based on the fact that they beat great fighters in their prime whereas ODLH did not. However I acknowledged that ODLH had close fights with great fighters in their prime and so therefore I ranked those 3 more or less equal.

 

If not for the lost to Floyd it would be Oscar by a landslide.

To me its a no brainer Oscar is clearly the greater of the three by a mile.