Morales v Barrera 1..... Who won ?

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    For me personally, this was the best fight ever & 1 of the hardest to score as there were very few clear rds if any.

    I admired MABs patience & body punching but liked EMs higher workrate & more frequent offence.

    A draw would have been the fairest result but if forced, Id give Morales the edge as he swept most of the middle rds & MAB was credited with a knock down in the last rd that shouldnt have been.

    What do you guys think ?
     
    Bill Butcher, Jul 7, 2008
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  2. standing 8

    standing 8 Active Member Full Member

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    I had Barrera winning.
     
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  3. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Morales won ... and I think Morales won the 3rd fight as well ...
     
    fitzgeraldz, Jul 7, 2008
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  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Really?

    The best effort Morales gave (IMO) was the 2nd match, which was easily the closest in my view.

    I had MAB winning all three fights, and honestly thought the first was the clearest win in the entire trilogy.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jul 7, 2008
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  5. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had a draw. Close fight, just like the other 2.
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    How did you guys have their first fight a draw? Are you simply ignoring the knockdown? Or did you give a two-point round somewhere along the way?

    I think I had it 116-111 for Barrera, and I had the 2nd and 3rd 115-113 for MAB as well.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jul 7, 2008
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  7. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I would give this one to EM.

    The second was the closest, with Marco getting the third.

    To be fair, you could make a case for all three results in each fight.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Jul 7, 2008
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  8. africandawg

    africandawg Active Member Full Member

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    I've watched the 3 fights plenty----came up with a draw in all 3--possibly biased cause of my leaning towards Eric..:smoke
     
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  9. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    MAB had Morales number he was the ONLY one to beat a PRIME Morales.
     
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  10. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Barrera got the better of the argument
     
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  11. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Barrera.
     
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  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    On paper.... yes.

    In reality... Nobody beat a prime Morales but certainly Barrera gave him most trouble.

    Erik was the greatest 122 lber Ive ever seen & would have beaten MAB more decisively in their 1st fight like he did in the 2nd if he wasnt troubled with the weight IMO.

    Ps. I still thought his higher volume edged him the 1st fight anyway & I only gave Barrera a 10-9 rd in rd 12 as opposed to a 10-8 rd as there was clearly no knock down.
     
    Bill Butcher, Jul 7, 2008
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  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, you're supposed to adhere to the ref's ruling, regardless of whether or not a mistake was made.

    Seems to me you're vindicating your own bias.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jul 7, 2008
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  14. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree that Morales won the first fight. However, I thought Mab won the third fight.
     
    wushu, Jul 7, 2008
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  15. fitzgeraldz

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    Morales looked better in the first fight ... he had more savvy and rhythm ... he looked more youthful than Barrera in the first fight.

    I remember seeing Morales showing more finess at crucial times ducking, weaving, then coming back with a barage of punches.
     
    fitzgeraldz, Jul 7, 2008
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