Morales vs Pacquiao 1 : Round 12

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  1. Journey Man

    Journey Man Journeyman always. Full Member

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    I was going to say that untill I read this. :fire Oh well - Nooby gotta learn to get in here first.

    Also Prime EM Beats MP.
     
  2. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good first post
     
  3. Guidokz

    Guidokz Classic Psycho Full Member

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    you're probably right, but what do you think of the outcome of the fight if both fighters used cleto reyes 8oz gloves?.

    you see, excuses doesn't justify one fighter's win or loss, lets just say both fighters have been and will be admired, it's just that the other fighter is greater than the other, and you know who i refer to 'greater'..
     
  4. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    your comparing using different gloves to being a shot fighter ?
     
  5. Guidokz

    Guidokz Classic Psycho Full Member

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    no, am just saying if yo spout excuses to my face then i'll do the same to yours..
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    There has to be perspective. Forget the agenda. Even the biggest Larry Holmes fan in the world ain't about to claim their man beat a peak Muhammad Ali, but they might claim that he'd win if they ever did fight prime for prime. There is nothing wrong with an opinion as long as you can back it up with some logic.

    Erik Morales had many wars prior to his first fight with Manny Pacquiao, and after that he never won another fight. That indicates to me that not only was he at the twilight of his career, but for their third meeting he was both weight drained and shot.

    Manny Pacquiao has since proved that he is the better fighter P4P in my estimation, but who would win prime for prime is anybody's guess.
     
  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    The gloves excuse is bad. But Prime EM beats MP? Based on what? MP is better now than when he fought Morales.

    Only speculation from both sides.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    You're stating the obvious. Of course it's only speculation. That said, Erik Morales was at his prime during his 122lb days, whereas Manny is arguably in his prime as a 140lb. It's complicated with Manny, I feel.
     
  9. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Manny probably KO's him....I mean did you expect me to argue for the sake of arguing?
     
  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    It is obvious. But not a lot of people get it. It doesn't seem too obvious to them. They choose to believe 100% that EM would beat MP or the opposite. I don't know about Pac being prime at 140 with one fight.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    He has been moving around the weights so much it's hard to gauge. He has one fight at 135lb, got more work done as a Super Featherweight, but that's where I felt Juan Manuel Marquez beat him. Likewise, he had two meaningful fights at 126lb and didn't even win them all. The manor in which he stopped a bigger opponent like Hattom at 140lb, leads me to believe we're only just seeing the best that Manny has to offer.
     
  12. gottagivafight

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    Morales was THE ****.
     
  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    was a great fight.

    they were all great fights
     
  14. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: Morales is ace. What a guy!
     
  15. redifish

    redifish Active Member Full Member

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    OMG your a clown.