Morales vs Sal Sanchez

its your opinion but ****KKK thats a pretty steep comment to make

 

he was more than elite. he was special. its such a shame that he died so young. his stamina was otherworldly. his stamina is irrefutable proof that extraterrestrial life has visited our planet.

 

:goodI love this post!Chava was incredible.I watched the Chava-Gomez fight in the old Felt Forum at MSG on closed circuit tv.I still get chills just thinking about it!:good

 

Man bro if he did all this by 23 you know his peak would of been 25-29. His best was yet to come. He had the perfect style to beat Arguello and I think he'd struggle, but beat both Pedroza and Arguello too. There's nothing hyped about him at 23 a phenom, shared Fighter of the Year honors with Sugar Ray Leonard, and considered eye to eye the greatest Featherweight of all time with Willy Pep. Best was yet to come.

 

Are you aware that Nelson was a last minute replacement? He didn't even prepare well for that fight. If he had a 2-3 month camp, he could've arguably won that fight. Going into that last round, the fight was nearly even.

 

Sanchez is lucky he didn't have to face Arguello or Chavez at 130. Had he not passed, those fights were coming. IMO, he wouldn't have had the power to win those fights. His biggest win was against little Gomez, a fighter who never accomplished much above 122.

 

What would he have done different? He wasn't going to outbox Sanchez the pressure and powerpunching is the best way to go vsba superior boxer. He gave a spirited effort, but Sanchez was clearly winning the fight. Azumah wasn't exactly asking for a rematch either. Sanchez clearly underestimated him too as he was told by King it would be an easy fight. Nelson always said it was Sanchez, not Whitaker, not Fenech, who was the best he's ever faced. Nelson was kicking ass and knocking heads close to 40yrs old I think I'll take his word for it.

 

Sanchez was never about power bro you really need to study fights more closely. Like Floyd Sanchez was more about precision and shot placement. As for Gomez, he struggled above 126 because he was never the same after the beating everyone knows this. He fell in a deep depression and was a heavy drinker, but all because Sal took away his aura of invincibility.

As for Arguello he was known to get outboxed and come from behind on many fights he'd struggle to hit Sanchez cleanly and break his iron chin. Pedroza would be a harder fight as he was very crafty he did ko Ford, but he struggled with LaPorte who also said Sanchez was the best. I think Sanchez had what it took to edge both he was the complete package.

 

Gomez was favored going in as well. Only after Sanchez's chin again proves granite and will inconquerable does he now become "little Gomez". Many thought Wilfredo was going to take Chava's head off. He took his blows flush in the face and didn't change his expression. This is also evident in the Lopez fights - another ATG puncher and HOFer - Sanchez stopped twice.

Discrediting his resume, especially passing at 23 is just flat out preposterous, but something that's come to be expected. As green as Nelson was, the skills, heart and determination showed were at an Elite Level. This is backed up by the fact he didn't lose another bout for 8 years.

Ruben Castillo's only loss prior to Sanchez was @ 130 to Arguello; Castanon's only loss was to Lopez; On top of that, there are rateds LaPorte (a future champ), Ford, Cowdell.

Dude built an ATG resume inside of three years for christ sakes. 'Lucky' is the furthest description of what I'd chalk Sanchez up to.

 

If anybody's lucky it's Chavez, whom Sanchez still manages to have a case over. He wasn't anywhere close in terms of talent, and wouldn't be half as popular or acclaimed if Sanchez doesn't get killed, Flat Out.

 

He was still better than Morales, and would've cracked his open chin with counter right after counter right in a matchup between the two.

 

What makes you say that? How many fighters that have accomplished what he did by that age (or anywhere near it) have gone on to success in even their late 20's? Most fighters who peak young (as Sanchez did, this is clear based on the trajectory of his title fights; he never really showed any improvement and more or less petered out toward the end) or have a lot of wear and tear at a young age tend to fall off young as well.

 

Would you have favored Pedroza at 126 or Arguello at 130 over Sanchez?

 

I've gone back and forth on those fights over the years. I've been leaning towards Arguello at 130. I think those straight punches would start to take their toll down the stretch.

Then again that fight wouldn't have been taking place, seeing as Arguello was already at 140 by the time Sanchez was killed.

Either way, the fact that Sanchez had already been in wars, and likely had a few more to go in the following years against the likes of Pedroza and a rematch with Nelson (among others) just strengthens my case that he wouldn't have held at the same level for too much longer. You can't continually put yourself through the grind like that (especially when you started so young) without your body tearing down.

Sal was a great fighter, but he was definitely an early bloomer. It's unrealistic to assume he still had a lot of improving to do, especially given the fact that he hadn't been showing any real improvements throughout the duration of his reign. Honestly, his best performance was his title-winner against Lopez, whereas some of his worst came towards the end against the likes of Ford (who would be subsequently beaten to a pulp by Pedroza) and Cowdell.

I just don't see the logic.

 

Would you have favored Pedroza at 126 or Arguello at 130 over Star bwoy?