Morales wants to fight Pacquao and JMM? Say it aint So!!!

MAB in 1993 responding to a question about what fighter he idolized,its from the Ring Mag.

"I always liked the way Salvador Sanchez fought.His aggressiveness,all the thing he did in a fight,how he boxed and handled himself. I'd like to be as good as he was and make the mexican people proud of me."

 

They acknowledge the fight, justifying the schooling with, "It was a stylistic problem". It had absolutely nothing to do with Erik not being able to perform at the level of which was typical of the Mexican star, given he'd been performing at elite level for well over a decade, fighting in some of the most brutal fights this side of Zale/Graziano. Manny overcome a Morales removed from not only his prime but his confidence, sustaining a schooling he'd never before experienced. It was time to bail, and I wish he had.

 

Morales didnt mention MAB cos the two are sworn enemies.

anyway- this is just an appeal for Morales to cash out one last time. He knows he can continue to fight against the guys he does fight , for 300 000 a fight, OR fight Pac again- who now in the interim has become THE man, and make an easy 5-8 million. At least.

I think he saw how Clottey basically just wrote himself a check by going in and standing there- and thought- **** - easiest payday ever- i ll do the same.

At the end of the day- i think we confuse the fighters- and think theyre always fighting for legacy, p4p rankings, and all time ****. That stuff dosent concern them- it really dosent. thats fan **** that occupies our lives. They think about the same crap normal people do- bills, taxes, money- getting a bigger house, a newer car, nicer clothes.

Anytime a fighter calls another guy out- it dosent necessarily mean he thinks he can actually beat him, he s just looking for a payday sometimes. these guys are happy to take a loss and beating for a few bucks, its what they do. why not do it for big stakes.

 

With regards to Morales though, the term cashing out refers to a casino term where you take your chips , what you ve won, and exchange it for cash-

- I think he knows, we know, everyone knows- that Morales has cashed in his chips long ago- and dosent have any chips left- certainly not enough to play at the Pacquiao table.

 

Could have been if not for one small detail: Erik has character.

 

As I've heard it, the stylistic issue was only half the story. There was the weight class as well.

I have seen almost all of Morales's world title fights, and I've yet to see this litany of brutality that compare to Zale-Graziano though. I've seen a guy who managed to get through the vast bulk of his career without ever being knocked down, without ever taking a thorough caning in a fight, without ever shipping sustained punishment, without ever being under intense one-sided pressure, without ever having to fight through the haze as he was on the brink of being stopped, without ever having his corner in a panic, without ever having the referee telling him he needed more from him or he'd consider stopping the fight, etc etc etc...

As I recall it, Morales was in some competitive, give-and-take, 50-50 battles, but never did he take a lot of punishment, never did he incur the physical or mental wear of being dropped, stopped, or even visibly badly hurt and in survival mode. I just don't understand your view on this at all. But to be honest, we've done this particular dance about 8000 times, and there really is no point to it. I'd prefer to talk to you about other things on other threads.

 

would like to see jmm/em just to close out the featherweight fab 4

 

Morales did look like a corpse in his 3rd bout vs pac.he shouldnt have been in the ring

 

PS: I don't think it was as comprehensive as a "schooling", he took very little punishment in the fight, and his performance in the first half of the Pacquiao rematch showed no signs that he was bereft of confidence at all, it was Pacquiao's physical prowess and relentlessness that ground him down as I saw it, not some mysterious mental effect of dropping a dull points decision at a weight he should never have been at.

What do you think damaged Erik Morales more physically and psychologically: dropping a points decision to Raheem at lightweight, or suffering the first legitimate knockdowns of his career AND having to be saved by the referee for the first time in his career vs Manny Pacquiao? Obviously it's the latter, which accounts for his poor showing in the third contest.

 

Stop the sillyness.

Does the weigh-in pictures not resonate with you at all, even being the major league Pacquiao supporter you've always been?

 

Eh?

 

The term "schooling" is commonly used to describe a fight where one fighter outclasses the other. You know this, it isn't indicative of punishment, necessarily.

Point taken, but the second half of the fight certainly showed signs that Morales legs were shot.

Ample amounts of damage had already been done, some of which was visible in his 2004 fight of the year effort against his arch rival, Marco Antonio Barrera. Unfortunately for both Pacquiao and yourself, there's the realization that Morales had showed signs of slipping even before the opening bell of their first encounter. It's my belief that fighting two wars back to back took a lot out of Erik, as did his Hall of Fame career. One last great effort coupled with Manny still being relatively raw in 2005 resulted in him grabbing one last win, before succumbing to what every great fighter must. The reality that they are no longer great.

 

I assume you've seen pictures of the weigh-in ahead of Morales vs Pacquiao II. You'd be forgiven for asking, "where's Morales?". He looked less like a human being and more like a raisin. For a fighter with so many great fights under his belt, it just added insult to injury.

 

he has taking 2 yrs off from boxing, thats enough time to heal both mentally and physcially i think despite the wars he has been in.id like to see him in his next fight to see if the layoff did any good for him, he fighting a decent guy so i intretested in how he does in this fight to say the least.if he can win this fight and look half way good doing so id say put him in with a baby bull at 140 and see how that goes.

im not goning to write him off just yet he still might have something left, for certain fighters at certain weights.im not sure how he will do at 147 but he knows his body better then i do right ?

 

Ali, one of the more intelligent fighters of recent times, sure knew his body ahead of the Holmes circus. :verysad It's called being in-denial.