More Accomplished: GGG or Deontay Wilder

How by beating Seth Mitchell ? Lol

 

GGG of course, how is this even a question?

 

Wow

 

Wrong.

Stiverne's best wins: Chris Arreola (fat fringe contender )
Stiverne's title run: none

Geale's best wins:

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(multiple, longtime world champion) in Germany,

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(multiple world champion)
Geales's title run: Sylvester, Albert, Adama, Sturm, Mundine. Unified WBA/IBF world champion

Gennady Golovkin title defenses: 15 (10 full title + 5 regular title), won WBA Super, IBF, WBC Interim and IBO titles
Top 10 opponents faced: 7 (Proksa, Macklin, Stevens, Geale, Rubio, Murray, Lemieux)

Deontay Wilder title defenses: 2
Top 10 opponents faced: 1 (Stiverne)

DirtyDan, you are lying nobody but yourself. :good

 

Stiverne was stopped by cab driver Demetrice King :hi:

 

I like schooling bummyluvkin fangirls on boxing. It makes my **** hard, it leaks every time I see one of you fangirls try to argue for Bummy's resume, have to let my girl to suck it off clean.

Proska, Macklin, Geale and and Murray ALL got their top 10 MW rankings on the ring magazine for splitting close wins against a shot to ****, faded Felix Sturm. The SAME Felix Sturm who hid in Germany, never testing himself, who was frankly only the 4th best MW in his prime.

Tell me genius, what did Curtis Stevens do to deserve a top 10 MW ranking? The man got knocked out by journeyman Jesse Brinkley, took a two year sabbatical from boxing to gather his thoughts, then knocked out 3 tomato cans in the first round and got a UD in a 8 round fight.. atsch If Curtis Stevens in your opinion was a top top MW when GGG fought him, that speaks VOLUMES to the current state of the MW division and GGG's hilarious tomato can record.

I also love how you bring up meaningless statistics on title defenses when the Klitty sisters have been holding the belts for the better part of 10 years in the HW division. Stiverne was Vitali Klitschko's mandatory, but he retired to become Mayor of some obscure city in Ukraine or whatever. Then we had Stiverne-Arreola, then Wilder-Stiverne. Don't blame Stiverne for having to knock out Arreola for his belt, blame the WBC who loves having Mexicans as champs. That's how Bummyluvkin got the interim WBC belt and the mandatory position.. :rofl

 

And Lemmy got knocked out by glorified journeyman patches Rubio, then lost to a faded, shot Alcine who got knocked out twice in his next two fights, one by Brian Rose.. atsch

Let's not forget Martin Murray, the same man who couldn't even beat a cripple, then got shut out by a blown up, shot Arthur Abraham.

No Mas Geale is too easy.

Curtis Stevens.. atsch:rofl that's even easier.

 

stiverne has as weak a resume as anyone in boxing. he is a never was.

 

You've still not made an argument for Stiverne being better than anyone we've mentioned. You've just slated the MW's and ignore that Stiverne really isn't very good. As illustrated by how easily he was handled by the exceptionally limited Wilder

 

Of course he's not good now, everyone and their mom picked him to brutally knock out the untested, chinny Wilder. He was a top 3 HW lauded by everyone, the reigning WBC champ, and the CLEAR favorite of the fight. If you don't believe me, check out all the threads pre Wilder. Once he lost and got shut out, the excuses came pouring in and now he's a bum.. :rofl

Even Malik Scott is better than anyone on Bummy's resume. I'm not saying these two are world beaters either, they wouldn't compete in ANY other era, same with Wilder. But the MW division is a tad worse at the moment.

 

It is not hard to argue for Golovkin's resume if it's compared to Wilder's, which is very obscure objectively speaking. While we can agree that neither boxer has true elite wins, Golovkin at least has quantity on his side, and he has defeated numerous top 10 opponents, unlike Wilder who has only beaten a single top 10 guy.

We are not here to argue whether WBC is biased towards Mexicans (I agree with you in that regard), or how exactly Stevens got his top 10 ranking (let's say I agree with you once again). We are here to argue who has the better resume between Golovkin and Wilder, and even if you take out all Golovkin's opponents that you don't believe deserved their top 10 position, Golovkin has still defeated more top 10 opponents than Wilder (who has only 1).

Also, statistics are not meaningless, they are facts, unlike the personal opinion which you may or may not have about certain boxers.

And finally, I'm neither Golovkin nor Wilder fan (although I must say that I find Golovkin way more likable than Wilder for many obvious reasons), nor am I buying everything that K2 says about Golovkin, especially now since they have already stepped aside numerous times. However, it is very obvious that all things considered (consistency, longevity, quality of opponents, quantity of opponents) Golovkin has way superior resume to Wilder.

 

They were picking Stiverne - myself included - because Wilder is so bad, not because Stiverne is actually decent.

Haha, come on man Scott was one of the most blatant dives I've ever seen. If you're on board with pro-WBC bias/corruption then you can surely see that was a dive

 

This is a bit of a daft poll. GGG is clearly streets ahead of Wilder.

There are threads created to debate whether Golovkin has any weaknesses.

There are threads created to mock the brittleness of Wilder's mandible, and who is going to knock him down next, a cab driver or a hobo.

When Golovkin's name is tossed out there, the prospective opponents brown their shorts and run for cover (Froch, Chavez, Martinez) or try every other kind of shennanigan not to fight him (Sturm, Cotto, Canelo). Last I heard they were queuing around the block to try their luck against the Wilder pinata.

Golovkin's sparring sessions are legendary for the guys he made suffer, whereas Wilder's are legendary for the amount of times Wlad had him dancing or sitting.

Look, it's not to say that this can't change. Wilder clearly has potential and the dimensions to be great. But until he steps it up, comparisons with Golovkin are a joke.

 

Lemieux is a better version of Stiverne. Wilder haven't fought any other top 15 opponent, while Golovkin has about 8 on his resume.

 

How anyone can think the Scott KO was legit is completely beyond me.