More ATG "what ifs"...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mrtony80, Mar 29, 2010.


  1. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Pac would have to approach the top 20 territory
    Morales (2x), Barrera, JMM, Hatton, Cotto, DLH, Money/mosley winner...

    2. Mosley would elevate himself into the 40-50 range...
    DLH (2x), Mayweather, Pacquaio

    3. Mayweather would be verging on Top 15 territory

    4. Roy's legacy is ALREADY good.....Him and Bernard have done FAR TOO MUCH in their careers to have 1 FIGHT determine their legac(ies):deal
     
  2. There are a lot of banned substances that aren't necessarily illegal.
     
  3. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    That is true.... But I honestly don't believe Roy Jones was knowingly injecting steroids into his blood, i guess it is a matter of opinion. He passed all the other tests and still looked superhuman, I don't think whatever it was had much effect on his natural abilities.
     
  4. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You mean they are going to be number one atg :)? because if you do you must be joking
     
  5. I agree with you, I was just being controversial. It's what I do.
     
  6. pretty boy

    pretty boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    B-hop out of the top 100 ATG, thats just crazy. Hes top 50 for definate IMO.
     
  7. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Top 5
    Top 20
    Top 15
    Top 35
     
  8. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    History will tell, in a 5 years after retirement the perspective of view changes a lot.
    Usually the ATG spot increases with the time distance.
     
  9. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I agree.... After people start to miss fighters' presence in the sport for a while they tend to further realize how unique and great they were.
     
  10. PBA

    PBA Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why would a win over Pac mean more and be more legitimate for Mosley than Floyd? And same with a win over Shane for Pac? :patsch
     
  11. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1- Pacquiao would have to be considered a top 5 p4p ATG. Track record in multiple weight classes and ending his career in this fashion would make him a sure fire top 5er.

    2- Mosley would be a top 20 WW ATG(already a top 15 lw). Top 20 p4p also. Getting dominated by Forrest and Winky keep him out of the top 10 p4p.

    3- Mayweather would be a top 10 p4p ATG.

    4- No effect on his status whatsoever. He should have retired in '03...still top 5 ATG at 160/168 though.
     
  12. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    .... because both Molsey and PAC are underdogs comparing to FLoyd.

    Mosley is past prime/old/broken/without proper suit so his win over SMALLER PAC
    looks better than respective win by Floyd whose suit is tailor made.
    Also PAC beat Cotto who beat Mosley, so if Mosley beat PAC its
    like telegraphic revenge over Cotto.

    PAc otherwise is a smaller guy so his win over Mosley counts more
    than Floyd's (naturally bigger guy) win over the same Mosley,
    also PAc is assumed to KO Molsey after Mosley beats Floyd (see point 1) which is HUGE
    while Floyd is counted to any win over Mosley in the first place (see point 3) which is AVERAGE ...

    In both cases Floyd gets less props with his wins.
     
  13. brown_bomber

    brown_bomber BROWN BOMBER Full Member

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    or snorting coke with calzaghe