More beatable: Wlad or Vitali?

I know we all have different opinions of how things might play out and we can all watch the same fight and see different things.

Before last Saturday, I would have said Vitali is the tougher, better-chinned, ballsier of the two, but Wlad is the better boxer.

After Saturday, I'm less sure. Chris Arreola was not Muhammad Ali, but he was an undefeated, hard-hitting boxer with a near 90 % KO ratio.

And he came in with confidence. At least as much of a challenge to Vitaly on paper as Sam Peter was to Wlad.


And Vitali took him completely apart. He out-landed him four or five to one.

He toyed with him, his movement was very good and he didn't need to clinch more than two or three times, compared to Wlad's considerably greater reliance on the clinch in the Peter fight.

He didn't throw any bombs, but he didn't need to. His jabs were hard and accurate and he broke the much younger man down very easily.

A KO was right around the corner, when the trainers stopped matters.

He was in complete control and unruffled throughout, in contrast to how Wlad sometimes appears. His performance was top notch for a man of thirty-eight.

And as I've said before, admittedly without evidence, I believe he has probably more power than the smaller Klitschko, but chooses to never put his all into a punch in the interest of maintaining balance and staying in position.

(Some small evidence: He sometimes rocks opponents with shots that have very little leverage).

I never had much doubt as to which would prevail, but I now believe it's very possible that Vitaly could outbox Wlad, if he didn't want to go for the KO.

 

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I'm not convinced myself, but interesting take. :good

 

If Vitali and Vlad were to ever fight I would put my money on Vitali, but they will "never" fight. I am glad they won't .

 

Wlad by a mile! Vitali is unbeatable right now. Wlad could be caught.

 

This would have been true if Wlad was fighting the same Peter today. But it was in '05, two fights after his loss to Brewster. His confidence was probably an all-time low at this point. Heck, for the first time he was an underdog in many experts' eyes. And Peter was pictured as a next big thing. In contrast, Arreola was never that hyped by media. People actually knew what he was made of. That wasnt the case with Peter. And Vitaliy is a top dog in HW w/ his bro. Back in 05 Wlad was just another contender who just lost, therefore wasn't a big threat to Peter.
So no. I dont think you can make that comparison. Its just not fair.

 

The obvious answer is Wladimir too me. The guy has shown on a few occasions that his punch resistance is very much questionable. It's true, he does a fantastic job at minimizing the risk of getting knocked out by not allowing his opposition to land anything, but Vitali is also at effective at doing this, whilst proving that when he does have to take a big shot, he can.

How do you suppose Wladimir would take the Lewis uppercut that Vitali ate up? Not very well would be my guess.

 

I wouldnt say by a mile. But this is pretty acurate. I dont see anyone beating Vitaliy, or Wlad for that matter. But with Wlad you dont know what to expect. Especially with a huge puncher. Though recently Wlad makes it almost impossible to reach his chin.

 

Wladimir providing there is a fighter out there that can put the pressure on him and land combinations.

 

Yeah I shouldn't have said by a mile. I'm just that impressed at how Vitali toys with supposed contenders.

 

I still think Vitali, even at age 38 is harder to beat. There will come a point where age catches up to Vitali. When that happens, Wlad, who looks unbeatable right now will become the harder one to defeat.

 

Wladimir has already been beaten comprehensively before. Vitali has not. He's slightly past his peak now but Vitali is still dominating and hasn't been in any real danger.

 

Wlad and its not even debatable

 

Can I believe Wlad is the better of the two but also the more beatable of the two?

Does that make sense?

 

Wladdy

 

Wlad has displayed more shortcomings in his game than Vitali over the course of his career. Basically the only real weakness Vitali has shown is a high susceptibility to injuries.