More confident or less confident on Hayes chances against the Klits?

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  1. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ???

    Still think he has zero chance against Vitali, I thought Vitali had grown old before his last performance, but then he didnt stop throwing and he looked great

    Wlad, I can't decide. I think Haye has proved his stamina, he certainly proved he has the power to put Wlad down for the count.

    Could Haye get to Wlad is the problem, imagine if it was Wlads superb jab reigning down on Haye all night instead of Valuevs. I doubt he could get away from that.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Not changed, Valuev is a competely different task to just about anybody.

    Still don't give him much hope against Vitali

    Live underdog against Wlad, 70/30 in favour of the Ukrainian.
     
  3. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    Really not sure mate, I feel sometimes the more I know about boxing the less I know. I'd love to think Haye could beat Wlad and if nothing else Haye proved he could rock even the biggest of men if he lands but lets have it right, Valuev is in no league near the Klit's and it's very hard to make any conclusions based on that.
     
  4. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am as confident as I was before. Even when the fight was first announced, I just felt that Haye had the tools to absolutely destroy Wlad. Vitali is a different matter, though, and I think it is by far the toughest fight out there. I want to see the fight with Wlad first and then see if Haye can tackle Vitali. Wlad wanted the fight before, he loves belts and I'm sure he hates Haye enough to request he fights Haye instead of Vitali. It will sure be exciting, though:D:happy. Come on, Haye:woot!!!
     
  5. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    I swear down if those two big idiots refuse to fight Haye, I will hate them for the whole of eternity...won't fight each other, said they won't fight Haye...completely ruining the HW division. I just wish I could believe Haye could topple them both, I just really don't see it.
     
  6. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whatever the Klits have said in the past about 'not giving Haye another shot' is BS....Both Wlad and Vitali would love to get Haye....no other HW fight even comes close to the money Haye can bring now (I think the UK PPV numbers will be high)

    I hope he fights:-
    Ruiz
    Adamek
    Wlad
    Vitali

    :)
     
  7. carrotcruncher

    carrotcruncher Member Full Member

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    Vitali would batter him, destroy him. Against Wladimir he has a punchers chance, no more. Haye beat a slow, one dimensional fighter and not particularly convincingly. So let's keep this world champion stuff in perspective (a champion who lost to Chagaev and never won it back authentically)
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    One of them will take Haye on - I don't buy all that BS about 'not dealing with him again'.

    I'd look at Vitali personally. He has slipped a long way from the Lewis fight...... he looked great last time out but that was against a fat pudding - who hadn't beaten anyone of note.
     
  9. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    Think if he somehow beat all of them, he'd be worthy of a mention around the greatest HW's of all time or no?
     
  10. calumbo

    calumbo Active Member Full Member

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    I hope he blows out adamek before he takes on one of the klits!
    Fed up of all the poles/americans on the general forum who keep posting **** about how admek would ruin haye, he has a better resume etc etc
     
  11. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No chance, he was even more 'boring' than either of the Klit's last night.
     
  12. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    More confident. Haye showed he has the power to knock both Klitsckos out. If
    you watch Vitalis last 3 fights, hes not
    much faster than Valuev.
     
  13. neil hibbert

    neil hibbert Well-Known Member Full Member

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    id always fancy haye against vwladamir but dont think he has a shout against vitali
     
  14. Trenaman

    Trenaman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pretty confident really. I'm inclined to focus on hayes positive attributes, speed, agility, balance, power, good combination punching, focus and being tactically aware, and importantly a chin which looks to have improved now he not cutting the weight.
     
  15. Bonavena25

    Bonavena25 Vamos! Full Member

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    Valuev takes away more of Haye's offense than the Klitschko's, and so Haye would look alot more dangerous against them in terms of combinations etc.

    However, the chances of Haye getting clocked rises when put in with either Vitali or Wladimir.

    I think he's got a live chance with either.