More confident or less confident on Hayes chances against the Klits?

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  1. kieron

    kieron Active Member Full Member

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    I think he has a better chance against Vitali than Wlad to be honest. I'd put Valuev and Vit about on par in terms of speed and that is what will make the difference for Haye. He could knock out both Klits imo but Wlad is technically the better of the two and is much quicker which would prove more difficlut. That said I'm much more confiedent that Haye could beat them both now, and by ko as well. Very impressed with Haye last night and answered a lot of questions about his stamina, boxing brain and power at the weight
     
  2. zfc

    zfc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vlad has the weaker chin of the two and I think Haye will starch him.Vitali is a different animal but Haye will hopefully be on a roll by then and with confidence and belief sky high who knows against Vitali who is getting older and slower while Haye is improving and learning.
     
  3. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye's chin isn't great either, Wlad's bombs will stop him.
     
  4. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    He has a slightly better then average punchers chance against Wlad, but Vitali vs Haye is a mismatch, Vitali knocks him out early or stops him late after a brutal beating either way VK wins.
     
  5. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that Haye will KO Wlad and beat Vitali on points in similar fights to last night...:yep

    I think that Haye will stay well clear of both and KO Wlad on the counter, I see him keeping the discipline and beating Vitali on points...:good
     
  6. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    More confident, simply because it was good to see he's sharp, his reflexes are good and he can attack unexpectedly. The K's have benefited from guys that have one approach and don't fight fluidly, or old guys that are way past their sell-by-dates.

    I's still pick against him, but I'm now confident he can come up with a gameplan to beat them both. And even more confident he can stick to it.
     
  7. 20a87

    20a87 Boxing Addict banned

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    More confident as he showed that he can follow and more importantly stick to the devised gameplan, also his trainer was very good at reigning him in and keeping him calm. Further to this for all the **** said about his chin he is a v.good fighter and boxer and no-one is gonna blast this man out and skip off with his belt without getting a couple of hayemakers first
     
  8. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    :good
     
  9. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A bit more confident, but i wasn't really confident in the first place.

    Haye proved his power by wobbling Valuev and he looked really sharp and quick.

    However his chin is still a big question mark. Valuev was to slow to hit it but Wlad is much quicker and Vitali, whilst not quick, does have good timing. If their is a weakness in Haye's chin these two will quickly expose it.

    Haye did look quick but i don't know if he will be able to leap in when throwing punchers as he did aginst Valuev and other opponents. The Klits use their height very well and Wlad has a killer jab and Vitali times his counters well so David could get caught whilst leaping in.

    His stanima is also in question. Yes he proved he can move around the ring a lot and still be sharp and have the strenth to slip punchers but his work rate was extreamely low. Will he tire if he has to throw punchers on a regular basis over 12 rounds as he surely will against Vitali?
     
  10. deebest

    deebest Active Member Full Member

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    If they refuse to fight him they should be stripped of their belts and sent packing back to the Ukraine.
     
  11. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he had trouble getting through Valuev's defence with any great frequency, I think he may struggle with Wlad's.

    On the positive side, it looks like he hurt Valuev, it's just a pity the rest of the fight couldn't have been like the twelfth. Still, it looks like his power may well possibly still be there at HW - which is a good thing.

    I'm surprised how much Haye is blowing in the corner though (going into he twelfth):

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B3-qf7kw54[/ame]
     
  12. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    how sad that a British heavyweight title holder will probabily be more known and watched in Germany then Britain, the fight got a staggering over 40% market share in Germany, which translates to around 9 million viewers, stunning!
     
  13. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyone else notice how well covered up Valuev's body was? his arms were huge!

    Against less of a freak show it's more of a Haye style fight. If he can add that of movement he showed last night with a higher punch output i honestly believe he can make Vitali look terrible. Let's not dress this up Vitali is far from prime.
     
  14. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The whole country knows who Haye is now. It got 1million PPV sales with sky, at least 4 people on average would of been watching the ppv for each buy. everyone was talking about it and he is front page of every paper today and yesterday.
     
  15. alba

    alba Guess who? Full Member

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    adameck would immense fight,if no one has seen his fight against golota .take a look,granted golota aint all that,but still a good performance and a few more fights could see him grow into being a heavyweight fighter.

    and him and haye could have a decent scrap .