More controversial!! With the horn camp

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  1. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    Video is 12 minutes long. Please summarize it with concise bullet points.
     
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  3. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That is pretty weird.
     
  4. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    “Indeed Coach Freddie’s next move was one of complete desperation as he tried to de-rail the Horn camp. Incredibly, leaving his charge just five minutes before walking to the ring, he visited the Horn dressing room with a WBO official in tow to challenge the Horn team’s use of prepared adrenaline.

    “Ultimately, with the backing of officials, he forced Horn’s team to pour the important treatment down a change room sink.

    “If not for the efficient and professional nature of Horn’s corner team, who had sufficient backup of the important blood coagulant, this fight would surely have been stopped early after Horn was cut by a Pacquiao headbutt in round three.

    I copy/pasted the relevant info. So Roach and a WBO official forced Horn's team to dispose of the prepared adrenaline and then Jeff Horn used a backup they had stored. But if it was forced to be disposed wouldn't that mean that you shouldn't be able to use the backup either since they are the same thing? Are you even allowed to use these things?
     
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  5. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    Prepared adrenaline?! Blood coagulant?!
     
  6. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    He was on that kangaroo juice
     
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  7. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    OMG.. This is neverending.. WTF?
     
  8. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I'd never heard of this, but apparently it's normal:

    Background:
    http://fightmedicine.net/cutman-adv...-coagulants-explained-by-an-invicta-fc-cutman
    Per Wikipedia:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutman
    Per Australian National Boxing Federation:
    https://www.pdhpe.net/wp-content/up...l-Boxing-Federation-Rules-and-Regulations.pdf
    Per WBO:
    http://www.wboboxing.com/regulations/
    I still don't understand how Roach could've forced Horn's team to dispose of the adrenalin, but I don't immediately see how they could have cheated too much with what sounds like "hormone bandaids."
     
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  9. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe the explaination to this is that the PRE-PREPARED solutions(?) had to go (just as they would allow pre-pared handwraps).

    I don't know how this stuff comes, but a unopened package or a new mix is maybe what the WBO and Roach called for.
     
  10. Flamazide

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    Good man, thank you. It is still suspicious that they were ordered to dump one out and turned around and used the same thing though. I suppose the idea is that there was nothing wrong with the contents they were forced to dump out in the first place and Roach just suspected them or was playing a mental game with them to rattle them and the WBO official was going by Roach's judgement.
     
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  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Yeah, this isn't new. Cut men have been using adrenaline for decades.
     
  12. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    That makes sense. That's the most reasonable explanation I can imagine for how Roach could force them to dispose of the first stuff they had.

    "No old/opened adrenalin. Only unopened, untampered."
     
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  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Was he ingesting or taking the adrenaline as a supplement?
     
  14. qwertyblahblah

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    It sounds like the youtube guy doesn't know what he's talking about and is making the wrong point. Adrenalin is completely legal as cut treatment. Horn's dad is complaining in that interview that the WBO caved to Roach's completely unqualified insistence that Horn dump their Adrenalin cut treatment before the fight. He's saying the WBO and Pac's team were trying to screw over Horn, and would've if Horn's team didn't luckily have more cut solution.
     
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  15. Radrook

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    More amazing is that hís dad seems totally unaware of providing the Pac team with legal grounds to continue
    the protest.