More cowardly move? Cotto knee or Canelo vacate?

Here is a link stating what Capetillo testified:

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/13/sports/sp-cotto-margarito13


Cotto cites photo to dispute loss : He says it's evidence against Margarito, who later lost his license.
November 13, 2009|Lance Pugmire

LAS VEGAS — Boxer Miguel Cotto glanced at the photo. He'd already seen it and had drawn a conclusion about what it indicates.

Cotto and his advisors say that a photograph recently obtained by The Times represents what his father, Miguel Cotto Sr., calls "overwhelming" evidence that his son's 2008 opponent Antonio Margarito used illegally hardened hand wraps to help him score a technical knockout over the previously unbeaten Cotto.

Six months after Margarito battered Cotto, a California State Athletic Commission inspector confiscated hardened inserts caked with plaster of Paris in Margarito's hand wraps before a welterweight title fight against Shane Mosley. Margarito's wraps were changed before he lost the fight to Mosley.

Margarito and his trainer, Javier Capetillo, had their licenses revoked in February by the California commission for using illegal hand wraps, and both can apply for reinstatement early next year. Margarito has since fired Capetillo.

The photo in question was allegedly taken of a jubilant Margarito moments after he bloodied Cotto in an 11th-round TKO triumph in July 2008 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

On Saturday, Cotto will be in the same ring against Manny Pacquiao, amid questions about any lingering effects from his loss to Margarito.

In the photo, Margarito holds his left fist forward and a portion in the hand wrap above his left-hand pinkie knuckle reveals a discolored section. Karen Chappelle, the deputy attorney general who argued that the California State Athletic Commission should revoke Margarito's boxing license, believed the photo was incriminating and she planned to present it at the hearing.

That request was denied, but the state did present photos of the plaster-covered inserts taken from Margarito before the Mosley bout. One photo showed a red-stained section that would've lined up in the same discolored hand-wrap area as in the post-fight Margarito-Cotto photo.

Cotto was the unbeaten (32-0) World Boxing Assn. welterweight champion when he fought Margarito.

But the challenger so thoroughly beat Cotto that he was bleeding from his nose, mouth and ears. "The only people who can tell you for sure if those [inserts] were in there is Margarito and his trainer, but you have the picture now, so people know," Cotto said.

Margarito's co-manager, Sergio Diaz, reviewed the photo obtained by The Times and said the discolored portion probably came from red dye in Margarito's gloves bleeding onto the wraps.

"That color is like the color from the gloves that are on his wrists after a fight," Diaz said.

Diaz said Margarito denies any wrongdoing in the Cotto fight or the Mosley pre-fight incident.

Diaz believes representatives of the Nevada State Athletic Commission took custody of Margarito's hand wraps after the Cotto fight.

But Keith Kizer, executive officer of that commission, said Margarito never turned over his hand wraps to Nevada authorities, and wasn't asked to.

Asked if he believes Margarito beat Cotto with loaded gloves, Cotto's trainer Joe Santiago said, "There's no doubt. Look at Miguel's face after that fight."

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Margarito testified he merely held up his hands for his trainer to wrap before the Mosley fight.

Dean Lohuis, the former California inspector who pulled the hardened inserts from Margarito's wraps before the Mosley bout, said: "Those pads were used in more than one fight. . . . The pad was dirty, used and looked like it had been around several times before. I'm convinced it was there against Miguel [Cotto]. . . . You can say it's circumstantial but in my view . . . it was more likely than not."

Margarito is working out lightly in Mexico, and Diaz said, "We're taking steps to getting our license back."

Bob Arum, who promotes both Cotto and Margarito, said, "The fight everyone would want to see is a Cotto-Margarito rematch."

But Cotto wants Margarito suspended for life.

"I know Cotto says Antonio won't make another penny off [him], but if he's offered a lot of pennies to take the fight, I think he will," Diaz said.

 

Dan Raf

So now what do we do with Antonio Margarito and trainer Javier Capetillo in the wake of the disclosure that the hand wraps seized by the California State Athletic Commission prior Margarcheato's fight with Shane Mosley in January tested positive for the primary elements of plaster of paris, namely sulfur and calcium?

Margarcheato and Capetillo are both already banned from boxing in the U.S. for at least a year after California revoked both of their licenses. It's not long enough.

According to California's forensic evidence, they committed the mortal sin of boxing by attempting to cheat in such a potentially life-threatening manner.

Maybe they will appeal. Maybe they will still seek to have a fight outside of the U.S., such as Mexico, where officials couldn't give a damn about our rules. Whatever happens, they are both tarnished for life and deserve an even more severe punishment than has already been doled out.

Now, I am no scientist but I do know that having plaster of paris on your fists during a fight would certainly be extremely dangerous for an opponent. A boxer's hands are already dangerous enough. Turning them into rocks is a chilling thought. Sulfur and calcium simply do not belong anywhere near hand wraps. That they were there can be no accident.

Margarcheato can claim all he wants that he had no idea what was in his wraps, which means, at best, he's ignorant. At worst, he's a criminal. I've talked to numerous fighters since the incident. To a man, they told me that a fighter knows what is on his hands.

Capetillo has offered the pitiful excuse that he grabbed the wrong pads out of his work bag and that it was a "mistake" that he put the tainted pads into Margarcheato wraps. I bet the dog also ate his homework, too. If you really believe it was a mistake, I've got some Enron stock to sell you.

Why would Capetillo even have those sorts of dirty pads in the first place? The whole thing stinks.

 

You're the only person who refuses to accept something which is documented fact. It wasn't me who said or did it. Don't get mad at the messenger. It was Capetillo.

 

Sulphur is the third most abundant mineral in your body after calcium. Guess what the **** happens when you sweat?

 

Where did Javier Capetillo say he put plaster coated pads is Margarito's wraps ???
Read the lab report it stated TRACE ELEMENTS of sulphur & calcium were found NOT Plaster covered pads Both Sulphur & Calcium are ingredients of HUMAN SWEAT!! ask any chemist
If those pads were plaster covered both Capetillo & Margarito would have been indicted & jailed & rightly so but they weren't The pads were harmless
Oh & BTW Javier has had his Ca trainers license back for years & rightly so

 

These idiots do not understand chemistry do they that's how the BS got started
All Tony did wrong was SWEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It was used ****ing pads not plaster pads, roflmao. If it were actual plaster, ya think those involved Like oh Margarito would have only been suspended and not banned, and more to the point not charged with criminal offenses? Ya think?

And the reason they elected to suspend Margo was not because of the pads, because they couldn't prove it was plaster to begin with nor could they link him to the pads, but because Capetillo admitted to sticking in used pads instead of new pads. Therefor they used Rule 390, which has jack **** to do with Plaster. Instead it is a like an integrity clause being applied to Margarito because Capetillo admitting to using used pads. Read the article by Hauser, this hosr**** the demographics specialists posters passing off as fact is BS.

“Any licensee who conducts himself or herself at any time or place in a manner which is deemed by the commission to reflect discredit to boxing may have his or her license revoked, or may be fined, suspended, or otherwise disciplined in such manner as the commission may direct.”

 

No one connected with boxing are more corrupt cheats than certain State Commissions That is blatantly obvious

 

Why don't you get hit with bricks and see how long you last... How bow dat?

 

You know of Margarito, but he doesn't know you, you ******ed looking GIMP!

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/13/sports/sp-cotto-margarito13


Cotto cites photo to dispute loss : He says it's evidence against Margarito, who later lost his license.
November 13, 2009|Lance Pugmire

LAS VEGAS — Boxer Miguel Cotto glanced at the photo. He'd already seen it and had drawn a conclusion about what it indicates.

Cotto and his advisors say that a photograph recently obtained by The Times represents what his father, Miguel Cotto Sr., calls "overwhelming" evidence that his son's 2008 opponent Antonio Margarito used illegally hardened hand wraps to help him score a technical knockout over the previously unbeaten Cotto.

Six months after Margarito battered Cotto, a California State Athletic Commission inspector confiscated hardened inserts caked with plaster of Paris in Margarito's hand wraps before a welterweight title fight against Shane Mosley. Margarito's wraps were changed before he lost the fight to Mosley.

Margarito and his trainer, Javier Capetillo, had their licenses revoked in February by the California commission for using illegal hand wraps, and both can apply for reinstatement early next year. Margarito has since fired Capetillo.

The photo in question was allegedly taken of a jubilant Margarito moments after he bloodied Cotto in an 11th-round TKO triumph in July 2008 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

On Saturday, Cotto will be in the same ring against Manny Pacquiao, amid questions about any lingering effects from his loss to Margarito.

In the photo, Margarito holds his left fist forward and a portion in the hand wrap above his left-hand pinkie knuckle reveals a discolored section. Karen Chappelle, the deputy attorney general who argued that the California State Athletic Commission should revoke Margarito's boxing license, believed the photo was incriminating and she planned to present it at the hearing.

That request was denied, but the state did present photos of the plaster-covered inserts taken from Margarito before the Mosley bout. One photo showed a red-stained section that would've lined up in the same discolored hand-wrap area as in the post-fight Margarito-Cotto photo.

Cotto was the unbeaten (32-0) World Boxing Assn. welterweight champion when he fought Margarito.

But the challenger so thoroughly beat Cotto that he was bleeding from his nose, mouth and ears. "The only people who can tell you for sure if those [inserts] were in there is Margarito and his trainer, but you have the picture now, so people know," Cotto said.

Margarito's co-manager, Sergio Diaz, reviewed the photo obtained by The Times and said the discolored portion probably came from red dye in Margarito's gloves bleeding onto the wraps.

"That color is like the color from the gloves that are on his wrists after a fight," Diaz said.

Diaz said Margarito denies any wrongdoing in the Cotto fight or the Mosley pre-fight incident.

Diaz believes representatives of the Nevada State Athletic Commission took custody of Margarito's hand wraps after the Cotto fight.

But Keith Kizer, executive officer of that commission, said Margarito never turned over his hand wraps to Nevada authorities, and wasn't asked to.

Asked if he believes Margarito beat Cotto with loaded gloves, Cotto's trainer Joe Santiago said, "There's no doubt. Look at Miguel's face after that fight."

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Margarito testified he merely held up his hands for his trainer to wrap before the Mosley fight.

Dean Lohuis, the former California inspector who pulled the hardened inserts from Margarito's wraps before the Mosley bout, said: "Those pads were used in more than one fight. . . . The pad was dirty, used and looked like it had been around several times before. I'm convinced it was there against Miguel [Cotto]. . . . You can say it's circumstantial but in my view . . . it was more likely than not."

Margarito is working out lightly in Mexico, and Diaz said, "We're taking steps to getting our license back."

Bob Arum, who promotes both Cotto and Margarito, said, "The fight everyone would want to see is a Cotto-Margarito rematch."

But Cotto wants Margarito suspended for life.

"I know Cotto says Antonio won't make another penny off [him], but if he's offered a lot of pennies to take the fight, I think he will," Diaz said.

 

It's literally been posted for you to see in this thread. I've shown you direct quotes from Capetillo's admittedly guilty self before half a dozen times at least. You really are quite childish about it. At first I thought you were just purposefully trolling. Now I think you might be getting a 'lil somethin' somethin' action on the side with Margarito. No other explanation. Because quite literally, you're on top of his dick.

 

Canelo is without a doubt more disgraceful.

 

and thats why margarito is a bum who cant get a big fight and is nearly blind in one eye...meanwhile cotto made 20 mil for the canelo fight and can still make decent fights for good money even still today

pride is great...but pride only takes you so far in todays world...and remember....pride is exactly why cotto lost the first margarito fight...if he was prideful he would have tied up and clinched and won that fight as easily as he did the first 6 rounds

u are the worst type of wannabe boxing fan....

 

Clearly Canelo was the more cowardly thing to do. Cotto took a knee because he was taking a beating. Canelo dropped his belt to avoid taking a fight he claims he would win.