More cowardly move? Cotto knee or Canelo vacate?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Mar 3, 2017.


  1. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

    10,980
    6,713
    Aug 7, 2010
    Im really mad because i dont like what Oscar and Canelo was doing with the WBC belt and their demands and i was looking forward to it being ripped out of their hands, GGG and K2 frustrated me by taking step aside money more than once but i just wanted to see Canelo face a legit 160 pounder. Lee, Quillin, BJS, GGG, Eubanks Jr, any of them would of done, and only because he held the belt and he was getting linked with a few opponants and none of them ever seemed to be a middleweight.

    I knew eventually GGG would not step aside again and i would get the fight i wanted, Canelo the 160lb champ against a Middleweight. But an agreement seemed a long way off happening and it all seemed to come from something from GBP side, not budging on the 155 thing or offers of money K2 would never accept. But all the time the talk from GBP was "we want this fight". Then they drop the belt rarther than fight. Fair enough thats that out the window, but still Oscar and Saul are talking over and over about this fight happening maybe 2016, maybe 2017. Now its maybe 2017 maybe 2018. And he still isnt even facing a Middleweight now. Chavez is going to be a skeleton by fight night. It will kill him to make 164.5 or what ever it is and other than money it doesnt even make any sense. Or does he just want to beat up the son of a Legend who called him a coward himself.

    Ever since that Cotto fight the glittering career of a real talent and exciting super star has gone to ****, it is now just about money and nothing else, I blame Oscar for leading Saul astray but at 26 and with his talent he should be focusing on his legacy not his bank balance, if i was as talented as him i would be all about being the best i can possibly be.

    Thats why im mad, i know you dont agree and unlike some i do understand your point of view and it isnt all troll as some people claim but the above is how i see it. You did ask.
     
    The Shockmaster likes this.
  2. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

    23,047
    1,067
    Apr 19, 2014
    fair enough man...i respect your opinion
     
  3. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

    31,374
    38,550
    Jul 24, 2004
    Neither move was "cowardly". Cotto had been conclusively beaten down...even
    famous military generals know when to retreat and fight another day.

    Canelo vacating was a business move. OK it was made because he and his handlers
    know he'd be beaten badly by GGG and know that it would hurt their product financially
    but I wouldn't call it cowardly. Well, maybe a little bit cowardly but not 100%. About
    50% cowardly.
     
  4. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

    10,807
    3,939
    Oct 30, 2011
    Cotton was pretty brave taking that plaster beating for several rounds straight. You can tell Margaritas gloves started to harden mid rounds and cotton braces through it until he couldn't take it no more and his corner stopped it.

    That plaster beating forever ruined cottons career and made his punch resistance dog **** bad, even though it wasn't much to admire before. The man almost got knocked out by Floyd Mayweather for goodness sakes yet the plasterless Margarita in the 2nd fight barely hurt that version of Cotton, only managed to scratch Cottons paper skin face with his gloves. He literally got his ass beat for like 10 rounds straight until the Dr stopped the fight. Now he looks like frankenstine. LOL
     
    The Shockmaster likes this.
  5. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

    23,047
    1,067
    Apr 19, 2014
    margarita is such a bum.....CJ washes margaritas raisins daily
     
  6. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

    39,120
    1,802
    Sep 10, 2013
    Taking a knee wasn't cowardly imo. He didn't go out on his shield but he knew he was beat. That's a mental "weakness", if you can even call it that.

    Canelo vacating had more to do with him eliminating the possibility of the fight being at 160... or so I believed until he agreed to fight Chavez at 165.

    So Canelo for sure, Cotto at least tried.
     
  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

    39,120
    1,802
    Sep 10, 2013
    You don't box, huh?
     
  8. HandzOfPapo

    HandzOfPapo New Member Full Member

    2
    3
    Feb 13, 2017
    I was always suspect of Margarito's body. The specific attention to strengthen his obdomen in training, how high he wore his trunks, how he'd almost bend in half when a good body shot was coming to even his overaggressive style to take attention away from the body, I think it's due to beating his body to make the weight, I mean come on look at the size of him this guy should have been 2 divisions up easily IDC what anyone has to say he use to kill him self to make weigh and bully these 147lbers if anything he was a bully....

    Mosley just had that perfect style for margarito, a lot of frustration, tieng up, battering shots to the temple and top cheeks **** even the back of the jaw, everyone trying to get a crack of margaritos iron chin, Shane said F*** a chin and banged everywhere except the chin while getting hard body shots in their throught out the fight he had Margarito looking like those snapping beach chairs "open, close , open, close"
     
    JoffJoff and BlizzyBlizz like this.
  9. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

    14,143
    1,208
    Aug 6, 2005
    Calling Cotto a coward is the biggest cowardly move going on here. Easy to say behind a keyboard than in a ring getting the **** kicked out of you.

    Cotto is a ****ing warrior.. who cares if he took a knee. Only keyboard warriors care.
     
  10. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,052
    172
    Jun 21, 2007
    The more coward is margarito for needing plaster of Paris to defeat Cotto then to try and use again vs Mosley
     
    BlizzyBlizz likes this.
  11. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,263
    10,269
    Jun 28, 2016
    Lol I know that reply was to someone who said Canelo dropped his belt and ran from GGG for a more lucrative fight,had to say I though I was going mad as I'm sure his next fight was Liam Smith,now how is that more lucrative lol.
    No problem with Canelo or his fans but at least tell things how they are/were and not some made up **** hoping none of us will question the above?
     
    fistsof steel likes this.
  12. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,263
    10,269
    Jun 28, 2016
    Yeah for sure Cotto been in some of the most nauseating brutal fights of all time and gave as good as he got,for some fan who had no idea how Cotto felt that night and to suggest it's cowardly is well honestly I've no words to describe it.
     
    Ant Sutton likes this.
  13. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,263
    10,269
    Jun 28, 2016
    How about if Nick Blackwell had taken a knee against Eubank?he may have saved himself from a brain bleed,if the ref ain't doing his job and th corner don't pull him out then what's wrong with the fighter calling it a night.
    Calling boxers coward for stuff like that could actually do more damage because with social media and what not no fighter worth his salt is gonna want some stupid backlash from ****wits on Twitter who cowardly hide behind their keyboard and somehow seems to know who's brave and who ain't,come on boxing fans on the whole are ok and we should rise above this crap.
     
    Ant Sutton likes this.
  14. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,263
    10,269
    Jun 28, 2016
    If true it's awful but still he's a warrior himself,if the gloves were loaded that's unforgivable,PEDs I can accept as its part of sport nowadays and the athletes accept this even though you'd never hear em admit it but loads gloves can kill a man
     
  15. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,263
    10,269
    Jun 28, 2016
    Oh come on you don't believe that,Margo no question was very brave and a "real fighter" but at what cost,his eye socket is damaged big time cause of it,also to suggest Cotto isn't a real fighter is off the mark,for all we know Cotto may of felt he was close to the edge,I've brain bleed ect