More Heart: Deontay Wilder or Anthony Joshua

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by douglas1, Nov 13, 2021.

More Heart

  1. joshua

    6 vote(s)
  2. wilder

    65 vote(s)
  1. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

    Jul 25, 2010
    Wilder without question for me. Freakishly so as already mentioned by some.

    Regardless of opinions of both men, begrudgingly or not, I think this will be a thread where the majority of the forum will be basically in agreement.
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  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    Dec 6, 2008
    Wilder has heart but when you get hit harder, heart goes out of the window. People aren't taking into consideration punching power. Let's see how many punches he can take from a harder puncher. Fury isn't a big puncher.
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  3. Gregor1987

    Gregor1987 Active Member Full Member

    Mar 14, 2011
    Is this even a question? AJ quit against Ruiz and was gutless against Usyk.
  4. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck King Richard IV Full Member

    Nov 4, 2017
    I've never liked Wilder. I would be rooting for Joshua if they ever fought, because I consider him a better person.

    But to be honest, Wilder has more heart.
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  5. Ty is That Guy

    Ty is That Guy Member Full Member

    Jul 6, 2021
    This is a really dumb thread. Wilder didn't even have the heart to FACE AJ. Not even after being offered 120 million to do so.
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  6. Jolly Roger

    Jolly Roger Active Member Full Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    I don’t really understand why Wilder’s record is so bare if he’s got such a great heart. Heart isn’t just about taking a beating, it’s also about pursuing fights that matter.
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  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY I've had so much sex during lockdown Full Member

    Sep 29, 2012
    - got off the canvas to beat Klitschko
    - badly hurt by Whyte early, hung on to dominate and stop him
    - Rallied to stop Povetkin sustaining a broken nose in the process(cards had AJ up, but that's BS)
    - avenged an embarrassing loss convincingly
    - accepts defeat like a man

    - Battered into submission 2x by Fury(not known as a big puncher)
    - Benefited from a highly suspect timely break after being out on his feet against Grandpa Ortiz
    - months of silence after Fury II, followed by all sorts of absurd excuses - reduced to a laughing stock. Refused to shake hands with Fury after the trilogy fight.

    AJ has Wilder beaten in the heart and class departments, and would have beaten him very easily had they actually fought.
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  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

    Jul 25, 2015
    Wilder doesn't have 'heart' in the sense posters here are talking of. He is delusional and spiteful, which is what kept him in with Fury for so long. I honestly don't think he'd show the same staying power against another fighter - he just hates Fury specifically and held on to any chance he had. I think his propensity to quickly accept obscene excuses also showcases this imo. Besides, we'll never truly know due to his dire resume.

    Joshua does have more heart in the 'classic' sense and this thread honestly shows the esb circle jerk against Joshua. I don't like him but you can't deny he has shown more consistent balls in his career and matchmaking. I don't see how you can watch the Klit fight and not think he has heart. Joshua is unsure of himself though, especially nowadays, but that's different from not having heart.
  9. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Getting a beating and continue to take a beating because he ran his mouth is not hard. Pride and stupidity is what I'd call it.
  10. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

    Oct 22, 2015
    Lol at the in sad few unable to accept the undeniable fact that Wilder has heart
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    No denying Wilder showed plenty of heart vs Fury in the 3rd fight. Having that ability to hang in there is great if it allows you to turn things around like in the first Ortiz fight but when it just means you take a prolonged beating like we saw vs Fury it's probably more detrimental than a benefit.

    It's a shame Wilder didn't have other attributes like courage and self belief so he would of tried unifying against Wlad or Joshua, humility after losing to Fury and take his loss like a man, rather than latch on to the crazy conspiracies of his deranged fan base, ring IQ and adaptability so he could come back from his loss and win the rematch, instead of going in and taking another beating. But hey at least he has heart.
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  12. stevic1

    stevic1 Marvelous Full Member

    Oct 18, 2021
    Wilder,I prefer Joshua but once he sees that the chances of winning are low he just gives up,he gavu up against Ruiz,and he really didn't try to change the pace of the Usyk fight,if other fighters were easily outboxed like he was they would just grit their teeth and rush in for a KD or KO,he looked like he was doing it for any other reason instead of winning...
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  13. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone Full Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Wilder. But @gmurphy what you think
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  14. Ngubu

    Ngubu New Member Full Member

    Nov 9, 2021
    Joshua would rather lose on points than risk winning and getting knocked out.
    Wilder’s a horrific boxer and borderline mentally ******ed, but at least he’s got balls.
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  15. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    I think AJ would beat the brakes off Wilder if they ever fought, but, Wilder has more heart. Dumbass has to be beaten near to death before he takes a nap. AJ gets that goofy look on his face just before he folds mentally. Not saying Joshua is a wimp - he's not - but Wilder will go out like roadkill before folding.