More impressive wonderkid Benitez or Cuevas?

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  1. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which title winning effort was more impressive? 17 year old Benitez, decisioning Cervantes. or 18 year old Cuevas, second round knockout of Espada?
     
  2. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It all depends what kind of fighter you are drawn to. If one prefers a good punchfest like me, Cuevas is the most logical choice. While "breaking someone's face" is generally figurative, Pipino literally did it.
     
  3. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Benitez. I think he fought the more credible opponent, and in the long run, proved to be the better fighter.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good Q, I hae to go with Benitez being a kid who was 1 of the greatest master boxers of all time but Cuevas was 1 serious man child
     
  5. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would lean with Pipino Cuevas.
    Was not a 'protected' fighter, and was thrown in with some tough fighters
    early in his career.
    Came out of nowhere, to flatten a guy who had never been down, and literally destroyed him (Angel Espada).

    Wilfred, somewhat 'protected', and Cervantes though excellent, was on the
    down-side of the mountain.
    And the decison was debate-able,,,,,,

    Wilfred,,,,,,,,,still a 'Wunderkind'
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    How was Benitez protected? Cervantes, Palomino, Curryx2, Leonard between the ages of 17 and 21
     
  7. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Double 'P',

    Somewhat protected,,,,,,,,,not PROTECTED.

    all those early bouts, versus Easy Boy Lake,, etc..
    Up to his bout with Antonio Cervantes, who on his conquer list was really
    formidable.
    Not even a Saoul Mamby or Nani Marrero or Hector Matta, all good boxers but
    weak-hitting Light Welterweights.

    How about,,,,,,,a carefully guided early-career.

    Prior to his Championship bout with Cervantes,
    Wilfred Benetiz 26-0-0 (21 KO's) most impressive wins;
    * 26th bout,,,,12/13/75,,,,W DEC 10,,,Chris Fernandez 26-11-4 (5 KO's)
    * 18th bout,,,,,5/5/75,,,,,,W Dec 10,,,,Santos Solis 6-0-0 (2 KO's)
    * 13th bout,,,,12/2/74,,,,,,W Dec 8,,,,,Lawrence Hafey 37-10-3 (12 KO's)

    Note; Chris Fernandez, once a top prospect, had gone 6-9-0 (0 KO's) in his last 15-bouts.
    Note; Santos Solis was KO'd in 2-Rounds by Ray Chavez Guerrero in his next fight.
    Note; Lawrence Hafey, a Canadien club-fighter, had gone 14-0-1 (4 KO's) in his last 15-bouts, but all versus
    Ham-N-Eggers. Lawrence Hafey was rated #38 in the Welterweight Division.

    Note; Prior to his March 1976 bout with Antonio Cervantes, Wilfred was not even posted in the Top-10 of
    the Light Welterweight Division in Ring Magazine (1975 year-end rankings).
     
  8. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nick,

    After the victory over Antonio Cervantes,
    Wilfred Benetiz did defeat in title defenses.
    * W Dec 15,,, Emiliano Villa
    * KO 3,,,,,,,, Tony Petronelli

    The Emiliano Villa fight was basically a 'chess-match', with Benetiz winning 13 of the 15 rounds.
    The Tony Petronelli fight, Wilfred just 'steam-rolled' over him.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Benitez completely outclassed, arguably, the best Light-Welterweight champion ever.

    Cuevas beat a talented but not spectacular champion. Ok, he came from nowhere to do it, but what is more impressive?

    I have to plump with Benitez. He showed such a brilliant grasp of technical skills at such a young age.
     
  10. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even steven, one for boxing excellence, one for punching power. Cuevas never gets much mention, too bad cause he was one bone-breaking son of a *****.
     
  11. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I thought the Villa fight was quite a bit closer than the Cervantes one actually.Tough to score.
     
  12. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  13. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This ! Enough said.......
     
  14. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Emiliano Villa was a pretty good fighter, with a great amateur back-ground,
    at 139 lbs. (Light Welterweight)

    At 25-2-1 (13 KO"s) was considered a good, but-risky challenger.

    Benetiz vs Villa fight scoring;
    150 - 138 (12-0-3 in Rounds) Wilfred Benetiz
    149 - 137 (13-1-1 in Rounds) Wilfred Benetiz
    148 - 137 (13-2-0 in Rounds) Wilfred Benetiz

    The fight was closer than the scoring, as there were many rounds that were very close.
     
  15. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Its funny that someone would actually call throwing a 17 year old boy in with one of the greatest boxer/punchers of the 140 division, EVER, protected.