More Physically Deteriorated - Brock vs Cain or Fedor vs Hendo.

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  1. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Who was more physically beaten down when they stepped into the cage at the time of the loss? Brock, or Fedor?

    Which of the two was further removed from their physical peak?

    Which of them was used to their body being able to do things that it could not do on that night?

    Discuss. Vote in the poll. :good

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  2. horst

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    Brock was in worse physical condition IMO, but Fedor was the more declined.

    I'll explain: I believe Brock's condition that night was temporary and reversible. He was at a low point because he was coming off a long lay-off due to illness, but it was just a low point, in time he will be able to build back up to a peak, Brock is not past his prime yet.

    Fedor's condition is terminal, permanent, and irreversible. He is in a gradual physical decline, which may very well have been accelerated by the beating he received from Bigfoot. Fedor may not be bona fide "shot" yet, but he's on his way now.
     
  3. TheBradyHawkes

    TheBradyHawkes ۞ Full Member

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    Brock himself said after the fight that he was physically fit and had a great camp leading in. He had fought just 3 months earlier and I don't think the illness and the layoff before the Carwin fight had anything to do with the result of this fight. Cain is just a much better fighter and whipped his ass.
     
  4. werety

    werety Active Member Full Member

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    This. Brock lost because he's got one plan which is ground and pound. When Cain's wrestling was too good to allow that he was ****ed. Plain and simple.
     
  5. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    brock sucks and feodr now sucks.
     
  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree 100%
     
  7. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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  9. kel

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    Cain wld always beat Lesnar no matter what physical shape Brock came in, whereas Fedor wld probably man handled Hendo 5yrs ago.
     
  10. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Fedor would likely have manhandled Hendo last month if he really gave a **** about maximizing his chances to win the fight.

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  11. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    brock looked like he was in great shape....but he just doesn't like getting punched in the face...i don't really see what the mystery is with either fight

    everyone knew brock's plan would be to get cane on the ground, and keep him there....he got him down, but cane scrambled well, and for whatever reason...brock's nerves/rust...cane's skill....luck...the fight went back to the feet and brock got caught

    fedor was on the decline for awhile both skill wise and body wise...he was sloppy and got caught with a sneaky uppercut
     
  12. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    Fedor's biggest problem, moreso than physical decline which I do believe he's experiencing, is the fact that, like Tyson, he stopped using all of his tools and turned into a one-handed slugger. Fedor always had good stand-up but his bread-and-butter was always GnP and submissions. Somewhere along the way that changed and his takedowns got weaker, submissions and position became an afterthought, and charging in with guns a'blazin' became the MO rather than the cyborg-esque analyzation of his opponents weaknesses and mistakes.

    He should have never gotten involved with those ****ing M-1 leeches and the creepy religious freaks.
     
  13. PivotPunch

    PivotPunch Guest

    This :deal
     
  14. zarman

    zarman Guest

    That was probably the worse Fedor that I ever saw fought