More Punching Power : Marciano or Tyson.

You´re right, it´s an art to KO fat and slow guys like Botha instead of totally ripped fighters like Walcott...


you rate the weight way too high...

 

I just believe that Marciano had that killer one punch KO ability which he could call upon to bail him out of sticky situations. Whereas the power Tyson had was somewhat reliant upon his speed being there also (As well as the fact that he could throw them in combination). Towards the end of Tyson's career when he lost alot of the speed the power also suffered.

 

Yes I am. And I am not alone, so athletic comissions supports me :rofl They simply divided divisions by weghts to exclude serious damage of small guys. :smoke

 

Everywhere exists a limit, otherwise giants like Long, Valuev, Dyer, etc. (such giants were in every HW era, and will always be) would be the best, don´t answer now that Valuev is a bum with no skills, for a man with his size/ weight he has great stamina, great chin, decent skills, good jab and a respectable pace, and he pressures the whole fight, and that´s not easy for his opponents. Even tough he was clearly beaten by Chagaev, Ruiz (normally) and Donald (normally)...


btw, instead of playing the smart ass here, it would be better to make yourself a bit sport, than you would better know what we mean...

 

man I am in sport for 23 years. I am doing swimming, judo, boxing, football, athletic and some minor sports, so I understand the principles I talking about.
So, listen, bodybilder :hey , I dont use such words as **** and ass usually... So it would be better to make yourself a bit culture

 

I meant really a form of sport, so specialised at one or two, not like you wrote, one time in the month you go swimming, than the next year you play soccer, the next week you go at the gym and watch boxing and spar perhaps some minutes... You can´t do 100 forms of sports at the highest level, so don´t play always the smart ass, for example when a experienced man with so much knowledge like OLD FOGEY want to learn you something, it would be better to notice some (or all) of the stuff he writes...

 

:rofl :rofl :rofl Man dont discuss the things you dont know

I like the way Old Fogey wrote his thoughts, but I have my own opinion and expirience of hitting and getting hit :yep .
ps Luigi I see you like word -ass-. Are you gay?

 

Ah, because I wrote twice that you´re a smart- ass I´m automatically gay? Sounds not very logical for me...

 

To judge it by your stupid and childish posts with the thousand smilies, it seems to be that you got hit way more than you hit...

 

Sure, guys like Trevor Berbick (220), Pinklon Thomas (215), Tyrell Biggs (230), Frank Bruno (230), etc. were all tubs of lard, right?

 

Bruno had too much muscle...

 

Yeah, but Luigi's acting like most of the big guys Tyson fought were naturally as big as Marciano's opponents and the extra weight was just fat. They were just bigger, and just as ripped.:good

 

Is that your catchphrase, now?:huh

 

Bruno was muscled up but he would not be a champ in any era, Berbick was a one fight wonder and he won it over a guy who just went back on shooting smack, Thomas, Thomas could have been a good one but went back on shooting dope....and Biggs was a punchless fighter who was not so much of a good boxer either

 

Uh-huh. So he was a bum because he didn't make any successful defenses of the European title? In that case, so was Frank Bruno.

I never mentioned Shkor- why is this here?

Although I had already guessed as much, it's apparent from this paragraph that my efforts here are pointless, because your argument is based on circular logic, one of the worst logical fallacies. In your view, it's apparently just a self-evident fact of life that no smaller man could possibly beat a good bigger man, and if anyone presents apparent examples of this happening, you "disprove" it by saying the bigger man wasn't good; "but how do you know" "Because he lost to a smaller man."