More Punching Power : Marciano or Tyson.

Tyson definitely had the freakish power to put an opponent out really quick, whereas the cumulative effect of Marciano's unrelenting assault resulted in broken blood vessels as well as more long-term damage.

 

See that is the point some guys hit extremely hard. Guys like Marciano and Langford were freaks for there size as far as punchers and not all big guys can punch Terrel was 6"6 but not a puncher and guys like Primo and Jess were big had power but could not punch like Marciano or Dempsey or Louis. Can Big guys take more punishment ask Willard, ask Primo.

A puncher is a puncher

 

Look, his power was brutal. The shot that KO'ed Walcott if landed flush KO's Ali too ... P4P the guy was a monster ... my trouble with Rocky is not his power. It 's his other skill sets and physical limitations in match ups with the best of the much bigger men ...

 

I see your point but I don't get caught up in that (the adjustments of the era's)

I think when you evaluate every division except the Heavyweights this is not an issue

When we go to the Big men there have always been giants. I think the training mentality of the Big guys (other than Lewis and the Klitscko's) there have not been too many greats.

Its impossible to take the environment of Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano and recreate it today or to take the fighters of today and send them back under the conditions of those times and see how they would fair.

I look at all of the dominant fighters of there time and compare. Johnson,Louis,Ali,Marciano,Dempsey,Langford,etc. were great and had the natural ability to adjust because of there greatness but there are no such things as time machines.

Jerry Quarry was one who handled the Big Strong guys and nullified power with a solid chin and solid power of his own but he was a class below Ali and Frazier.

There is an old saying the cream rises to the top and although it would be impossible for these great to be born again if they could be they would be great in any era.

I would love to see the 15 rd fights come back again for very few fighter had the skill to fake it for 15 rds and heavyweights would benefit the most (condition wise) those last 3 rds separate the men from the boys and a fighter has to find the perfect fitness to fight 15.

 

What I admire most about Rocky and what is not often mentioned is that he had the stamina left to land that bomb in round 13 or a brutal fight. How many guys today are exhausted just standing up for 12 rounds. This is what make guys like him and Frazier so special in my book. Joe also had enough to throw that bomb against Ali in rd 15 ... while stylewise lesser bigger heavyweights might beat them, P4P they were exceptional.

 

It was a powerful punch but a little overrated I think as Walcott was moving into that right hand...

 

I feel Tysons power derived from his ability to throw from awkward angles combined with great speed and accuracy, made him a truly fearsome guy and a terrific puncher unloading, in the first half of a contest. I havent really seen it after that bar the ruddock fight so id have to question his ability to do it over 15 rounds.

Marciano was a tough tough customer, strong as a bull and relentless in his offence. Couple that with his proven stamina and ability to KO in the championship rounds, then i would say hes the stronger of the two. I know thats not what the question was, but for some strange reason i get the feeling rocky had more strength but tyson was more dangerous early on, if that makes sense.

Anyhow, i had to nail my colours to the mast and sided with rocky since he needs more support

 

I don't know if you can overate it as it speaks for itself. Walcott was out for a long time. Rocky may have only landed half a dozen like that his whole career but he sure had it that night when he needed it , late in his first championship fight.

 

This is a joke right? That's like comparing Tomaz Adamek to David Tua.