More Punching Power : Marciano or Tyson.

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  1. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe Charles actually took a punch better than Tyson's 220 lb
    opponents. Who knows. The three 220 lb plus opponents on Marciano's resume were all knocked out, two in the first round, while
    180 lb Ted Lowry twice lasted ten rounds.

    Tyson carrying his power into the later rounds against Spinks, for
    example, is pure speculation, based on nothing.
     
  2. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do Briggs, Morrison, and Tua have anything to do with this.
    They did not fight Tyson.
    Why don't we bring up George Godfrey with Baer?

    Briggs at 273 lbs just failed to knock out a 221 lb man. That is a man
    close to 25% less in body weight.
    Also you throw around terms like 80 kg bums--could you be specific about
    whom you are referring to.
     
  3. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. On who tested Layne--Turkey Thompson for one--Thompson
    stopped Buddy Knox, Pat Valentino, Gus Dorazio, Eddie Blunt, Elmer
    Ray, Lee Murray, and Al Hart, all top men of the era, and he could
    ko the big guys--He ko'd Johnny Haynes (6' 4" 220 lbs), Chuck Crowell
    (6'5" 230 lbs) and Ben Morosz (7' 1", 296 lbs). Bob Satterfield was also
    a feared puncher who blew away top heavyweights such as Lee Oma,
    Cleveland Williams, John Holman, and Bob Baker. And Walcott could
    punch also.

    2. I don't know what Toney proves one way or another. No one has
    knocked him out, including the big heavyweights. He has a top chin
    and a solid defense. If anything, the most he would prove is that
    a smaller man can be tougher to knock out than many big men.
     
  4. Bummy Davis

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    Correct and that 221lb man still looked like he could tighten up a bit, I wish they would bring back 15 rounds and you would see a lot of these guys losing useless bulk
     
  5. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh and Tyson isn't? He is the most overrated fighter of all time. Marciano is getting more and more underrated by the year. Pretty soon people will be calling him a lucky bum. Its sad really.:-(
     
  6. Manassa

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    Marciano might be overrated as a heavyweight, but it's not fair to match him against Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson and George Foreman. Look at him in a pound-for-pound sense; he was great.
     
  7. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IMO he could take Lennox. Lennox was KTFO by a right hand from Rahman, and Marciano's best punch was his "Suzie Q" obviously. But I think he would take some punishment before getting there.
     
  8. Denny Cruser

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    :good
     
  9. Denny Cruser

    Denny Cruser Member Full Member

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    I think the reason you suggest is wrong. Because Marcianos big men were bums while small men likes Charles were great LHWs and CWs. And I see you think that bad mover Valuev very easy to be KOd cause of his mobility :yep
     
  10. Denny Cruser

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    They fought and hit iron-chinned Lennox Lewis :rofl So what they are harder puncher than Shmelling, for example? :hey
    There are two reasons
    first - NOW Briggs old and to massive
    second - they all good HWs so they can take punch from HWs.
     
  11. Denny Cruser

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    They all were fantastic bums with a number of even KO :yikes losses to small mediocre guys like of http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=040788
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    Concerning Spinks.
    Michael was iron-chinned LHW and CW and Mike nearly kill him. While Tyson landed on some HWs with non-iron chins with significntly lesser efect. Altough your theory suggests that they are easier to hit and to KO. :hey
     
  12. Sweet Science

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    Hello everyone, I am new here. Just wanted to put my opinion accross on the question of who has more punching power Marciano or Tyson? I beleive that Marciano had the ability to throw harder single shots. However, Tyson in his prime, taking into account his rare ability to throw very quick power shots in comination would be more powerful most of the time. If that makes sense.
     
  13. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Simpatico introduction! Welcome! It´s good, you argue your posts useful, almost a rarity here...
     
  14. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    Thanks Luigi, I'm sure I'll find interesting debate and opinions here
     
  15. Denny Cruser

    Denny Cruser Member Full Member

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    Hello man. Do you believe that because of Tyson KOd bigger gyus than Marciano? :yep