Marquez,coz he show hes greatnes agains great boxer,not like toney who never show his "greatnes" again a great fighter
That's an interesting point... but wasn't McCallum a greater boxer than anyone Marquez has beaten ? Toney's been outboxed by Jones Jr, Marquez's been outboxed (just a bit) by Chris John. It's close. I'd give the edge to Marquez offensively and Toney defensively. P4P overall, I'd say Toney without the PEDs accusation... now I don't know. Edit : I wanted to quote you, Sailor Liston.
MacCallum was great,but imo not in his prime... his best win was imo vs holyfield... but Marquez beat the p4p king Pacman and other very good boxer like medina,gainer,salido,barrera,rocky juarez,casamayor,2X diaz & the warrior Katsidis
I'd take Marquez's skillset. He can use more punches and fight effectively in more scenarios. Toney is more slick and tricky. I wouldn't call him a master technician, as he was, while not one-dimensional, not multi-faceted, either. he was primarily a counter puncher, and primarily with the right hand.
For me Toney, but I could see how someone might think Marquez. For those boxers out there, you have to respect Toney's ability to fight inside and at close quarters, which is probably the most difficult part of boxing and he was a master of it. He had trouble with guys like Griffin and Jones because he was not as effective as an outside fighter against back peddlers and counterpunchers, but he was a master technician and counterpuncher himself, and went into the ring with some serious monster punching heavies, only being 5'9 and never being a big puncher himself.
Toney. Marquez throws all the punches nicely.So did Toney, but he had a much better slip and counter game...amuch better "make 'em miss and make 'em pay" fighter -to use a well worn cliche-than Marquez who has a skillset that is comparatively basic and more reliant on strong excution of the basics than Toney.Not that it IS basic per se, but Toney has more layers and finesse. Neither man was particularly good or natural on the frontfoot, but i couldn't see an in-shape Toney look so flat footed and consistently overextended with his shots as Marquez did against JOhn.It took more the Reggie Johnson class of fighter to make Toney look laboured at his peak. Neither man anything special on the backfoot either.At least in the classic slow retreat and turn your man style of Barney Ross\Whitaker\Robinson etc Toney better at edging backwards while slipping and countering though, and better at fighting off the ropes.
Toney was a master in his prime, so hard to hit and a top notch counter puncher with his shoulder roll defence. I'd say Marquez is a shade more skilled based on his combinations. Marquez is so good at picking the right shot and he's one of the best combination punchers of his era. Both great fighters though
