Moses Itauma vs. Dillian Whyte & Filip Hrgović vs. David Adeleye + Nick Ball vs. Sam Goodman RBR.

What I found surprising last night with Dillian, was his complete lack of awareness once he was buzzed by Moses.
Surely someone as experienced as Dillian should have grabbed hold of Moses to buy some time and attempt to make it awkward. Instead he just stood there allowing Moses to do as he pleased.

 

I truly think that Whyte has mentally checked out. Once that happens, it's the end. He didn't seem his usual self all fight week. I originally thought perhaps he was just super focused and just wanted to get to the fight and do his talking in the ring. But now I see it totally different. And the way he didn't even do his wolf howl... his whole demeanour seemed like he couldn't be arsed with any of it. It's like he just came to get his Saudi paycheck and get out. Didn't even bother to stay for an interview, the whole thing was pretty shameful to be honest. Really reminds me of the way Wilder has gone but worse. I think with both Whyte and Wilder, it's definitely more mental than physical. You can physically not have it anymore, but still give it your all.

I used to think Whyte was made from the same mould as Chisora, albeit with a way worse chin. And maybe he was at one point... those two fights will live long in the memory, both absolute classics. But I guess Chisora is a phenomenon. I mean, look at what he's still doing, it's amazing considering his age, style, and how long he's been fighting. He's only retiring after one more fight because he has to, not because he wants to. I'm not particularly keen on him as a person, nor has he ever been able to grab that world title, but as a fighter, there's not many I respect more in this game. Been a pleasure to watch his career.

 

I don't think clinching is quite as easy as you think it is.

What did you expect Whyte to do? He knew he was going to get bludgeoned. He's hardly going to be peacocking it up all fight week when he is a dead cert to be knocked out in quick fashion. He's already going to feel a tit and emasculated by being pratted by a twenty-year-old, so he's not going to want to dig an even bigger hole, is he?

Fans moan about boxers being interviewed after being KO'd, and fans moan about boxers not giving interviews after being KO'd.

Also not sure what you are on about with Chisora having to retire. He doesn't have to retire after one more. He could go on for longer if that is what he decided to do. Whyte had better wins than Chisora and put Chisora flat on his back. Chisora's longevity is pretty worthless given that he's been beat about fifteen times. Chisora 'beat' (I think Joyce won) a shot, ancient Joyce and a pathetic Wallin and people are rimming the woman beater again.

 

Yep you’re right about that. It’s easy to say “clinch” or “take a knee” from the comfort of a sofa. Imagine being buzzed, dazed and having to think in the heat of the moment while a complete savage is throwing bombs at you at lightening speed.

It’s like when you’re watching football on the tv from an aerial camera view and bemoaning a player for not spotting a pass that would be impossible to see on the pitch.

People seem to be glossing over the fact that Whyte took a heavy shot on the top of the head which will have messed up his equilibrium completely.

 

So many things wrong with this post... where do I start? Any boxer thinking like that shouldn't be getting in the ring in the first place, not only for their own sakes but also wasting fans' time and money. Even at his age, his job is to convince himself that he can at least make a fight of it. Again, you think Chisora would've acted like that the whole week and got destroyed so easily? I very much doubt it.

And sure, Chisora could carry on... but he knows as well as anybody that's not wise. He's probably already going to have brain issues later in life due to the amount of wars he's been in. At 41, the risk is only going to increase as he declines.

Yes, Chisora has lost a lot of fights, but that's because he has always taken on the very best regardless of the difference in skill level...and those losses don't represent the fights he has been in. He has given most of the guys he has lost to an uncomfortable fight, including Usyk. Even in the fights where he was convincingly beaten, his never-say-die attitude and refusal to give up is what has endeared fans to him. I don't quite know what you're on about mentioning the wins against Joyce and Wallin... I've been a fan LONG before those two fights. I always look forward to a Chisora fight and I'm sad there is only one more, but at the same time, kind of relieved.

And, I already mentioned, as a person, I'm not the biggest fan. But you can separate a fighters' work from their personality. I actually hated Chisora years ago, and was delighted when Haye KO'd him, but his attitude in the ring, particularly in his later years, has won my respect. I don't know how anyone who watches his fights regularly can't feel the same.

 

lol Chisora acted like a complete lamb to slaughter against Fury for the WBC world title, arguably the biggest bout of his life.

Of course Chisora is going to have neurological issues. Any single punch to the head is going to have some kind of neurological impact, and the cumulative effect of thousands of punches is going to take its toll. The point is that this 50 is just an arbitrary figure in the context of health. He doesn't have to stop, so what you're saying is a load of old rubbish.

Most of the people on this forum think he's a bellend. He has one fan that I can think of. He didn't give Usyk an "uncomfortable fight". He was made to work diligently, with the comfort of knowing that he was never remotely in any danger of losing. Fury made him look a fool three times. Kabayel snoozed it to a victory and "War" Chisora couldn't be arsed putting in any effort. Since Haye got involved and he 'bettered his protocol' let's say, he had a new 'lease of life' beating the legend that is Takam. Even Paint Dry Parker made him look an old man the second time. He only won two rounds against an ancient, gassing Klitschko who had one foot in retirement. He couldn't lay a glove on Pulev the first time around, and lost the second time also and got a gift. So your post has more holes in it than a cheese grater

 

Seems clear to me that your personal hatred of Chisora is too great to think otherwise, therefore there's no point in going back and forth. One fan? He still sells out The O2 or Manchester Arena every time he fights. Not sure where you're from, but most boxing fans in the UK love him.

 

Do you mean when Whyte took 2 very clear punches to the back of his head which messed up his equilibrium?

 

Yep 100%. If they aren’t fussed about rushing him, get him in with Parker next. Another straight up and down heavyweight with zero footwork or head movement. If they want to be cautious he will probably have 2 more before Parker for an alphabet belt.

With the division as it is, he most likely won’t encounter a problem until he meets the champion.

 

It's called sales and marketing. Casual fans will buy into anything. If Chisora was so beloved he would have more than two fans on a boxing forum.

 

Whytes done well with the talent he had.

Bashed up people like Lucas Browne, a shot Povetkin (after a brutal KO Loss) and thats about it really.

Chisora 1 was a life and deather, even the second one Chisora was winning before the points off and he had to go for it. Parker fight was dead on his feet at the end,

Came along at the right time with the Joshua hype and the Matchroom/Sky machine at its height and profited massively from it, fair play to the lad.

 

beat Parker also who is currently most overrated in the sport

beat helenius who beat Chisora with one arm

 

He sells and markets himself due to his performances in the ring. I'm the furthest thing from a casual, but a Chisora fight is always a good night no matter the result. Besides, he hardly does his insane antics anymore that he used to do when he was younger, so I'm not sure casuals are gonna take much notice.