Moses Itauma vs. Filip Hrgović & Sam Noakes vs. Denys Berinchyk + Nelson Hysa vs. Thomas Narmo RBR.

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  1. TipNom

    TipNom Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Largely inexperience. Failed to pace himself and put everything into every shot, but Hrgovic's chin is so immense that he could take it all. Moses couldn't sustain it over the full fight and Hrgovic after preserving his energy throughout most of the fight made him completely punch himself out in the 8th and 9th. Shades of Homer Simpson from Filip
     
  2. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

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    Could have been the case, but we're talking about verhoeven usyk and it is anyone's guess whether a verhoeven just was so unconventional that he was able to hit usyk so easily, maneuvering him into right hands by getting the outside position on him - which should have been impossible - or if itauma could have done way better than that
     
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  3. Scotty Cork

    Scotty Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When did Joyce fight Wardley?
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    The cringey assholes marketing this, anointing a new king before he'd even stepped foot in the ring, certainly didn't expect it. But many of us did.:D
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  5. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the thing with boxing a fighter can be bested in a fight by a more skilled fighter for 99% of the fight and in a single punch be defeated. Marciano was not better than Walcott but he won Chavez was not better than Taylor but he won Toney was not better than Nunn but he won....Hrgovic was not better than Itauma but he won.

    I like Hrgovic and had higher expectations for him when he turned pro and glad to see him finally make it. I wonder if Itauma can come back mentally, you and I have seen very good fighters not handle a loss well and fall apart but unlike the Chavez-Taylor loss Hrgovic did not beat the prime out of him.

    We will know if Itauma is thrown back to the wolves where or not he is the real deal worth developing or did they all cash out on him early
     
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  6. kirk

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    nah.

    Moses puts on exciting and dynamic showings. He draws a lot of energy and new fans to the sport. Him winning and continue to progress, putting boxing back in the news with an exciting new heavyweight titlist with mystique surrounding his potential, would have continued to bring in energy and new blood to the sport, that would clearly be better for boxing then the ponderous and boring Filip, who will likely lose his title in short time and be a win some lose some fighter at world level.

    Would have been much better for Moses to get exposed later in a blockbuster matchup with a top name like DD, in what would have been a highly anticipated matchup that would have delivered an exciting fight and ending to a high profile championship fight, which would have been a rare win (as an event) for high profile boxing matches on the world stage.

    I think its pretty obvious had Moses dealt with Filip impressively, it was unarguably better for boxing than Filip winning lol.
     
  7. BlackDog

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    Nah. Usyk is as quick as Moses but got 1000% more expirence. Filip is slower than thoose guys. Usyk will never eat some many shoots. His foot will make him safe.
    This will be probably 2-3 maybe 4 even rounds and then Usyk will control it. Moses got perfect potential but need to have time to imprvoe.

    In boxing sometimes 1 bad decision about who You facing can destrony Your carrer. Look at Joyce vs Zhang (horrible mistake) or Kownacki vs Hellenius. You must be very smart. They wont, with this all Itauma next Ali/Tyson talk... They overlooked someone like Hrgovic. Many people saying it will be 2-3 rounds, easy fight...
     
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  8. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    Hrgovic took him out to deep waters and drowned him.

    He boxed well enough to keep himself in the fight (his iron chin helped). He applied a slow, steady pressure, pacing himself well. Itauma hit the wall hard in that 8th round after trying to take Hrgovic out. Reminded me of when Wlad hit the wall against Brewster.

    Itauma can come back, he is a phenomenal talent, but experience won the day.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Hey, I said Verhoeven was going to give Usyk problems, due to his style. So that was more of a RIco thing than an Usyk thing. Itauma wouldn't have brought anything to the tale that Usyk wasn't thoroughly prepared for, especially not that kind of pressure and high guard defense. Even in the amateurs, guys like Nistor and Beterbiev gave him fits, and Rico studied them. Itauma isn't that versatile.
     
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  10. McGrain

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    "I'm simple. I want to hold my belt. I don't want to party. I haven't seen my wife for 10 weeks. I want a little bit of junk food, few cokes, that's it." It's hard not to feel for Hrgovic who upset the applecart in a fight everyone wanted him to lose. A good guy I think, a big dumb good guy whose fulfilled a life's dream.
     
  11. BlackDog

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    Good night everyone. Great fight. And don't forget that Filip said before the fight that his toolkit also included a Bible. He also stated that the strength he had yet to find wasn't his own. Faith works miracles.

    The guy did what he had to do. In a fight where almost everyone had written him off, he won against someone who was already being put on a pedestal.

    A very valuable victory.
     
  12. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    Frank has no right to be mad, acting surprised and covering the camera like he wasn't the guy who built this kid up look like he is the best thing since sliced bread, giving him 13 cans 1 journeyman and then sending him to a championship fight where he hasn't seen past round 6 till then. Don't know how they didn't prepare him for 12 rounds or where realy should the blame go for that matter. Hope Moses is ok and recovers quickly.
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah, impressionable lemmings who lap up the hype. Why exactly do you think Filip will lose his title? He's lost once, and that was because Dubois was dirty as all hell and allowed to headbutt him senseless. Filip under Sanchez has been getting better and better by the fight. Filip will mangle Dubois in a rematch and I picked Dubois to beat that version of him the first time. Having a dreadfully boring dead eyed droning ****wit muttering into a mic with zero passion after flurrying on guys to a British stoppage, brings nothing to the sport. Best to see the dreams shattered now than later. Moses is not entertaining to watch, and never has been. He's twice the robot you seem to think Filip is.
     
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  14. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    Wanna see a quote Frank made to a Yahoo sports writer before the fight?

    "I know what he's capable of," Warren told me. "He is a [Lionel] Messi, he is a LeBron [James], he is a [Michael] Phelps, he is a Tiger Woods. He is a once-in-a-generation talent who will be a cultural sporting icon, worldwide. There's no doubt in my mind."

    Source: https://sports.yahoo.com/boxing/art...s-next-big-thing-filip-hrgovic-004848373.html
     
  15. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Itauma did a very good impression of Jim Peters at the end.
     
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