Moses Itauma vs. Filip Hrgović & Sam Noakes vs. Denys Berinchyk + Nelson Hysa vs. Thomas Narmo RBR.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CST80, Aug 29, 2026 at 2:39 AM.


  1. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Only difference is 1. Moses is young and will adapt 2. Not many have Hrgvoic's chin

    Itauma's failure was pacing and cornering. Itauma should have taken rounds off with advice from his corner, he was clearly breathing heavy from round 3-4 onwards. He did not need to be throwing heavy combos in the last two rounds, especially when he was hurt

    It's a shame he lost, because now the morons come out in the drove shouting hypejob, when realistically a few tweaks/ and even a bit more experience he would have won. Hrgovic for 7-8 rounds looked pretty clueless n there

    You can't call a 20 year old guy he takes 8 rounds off a seasoned pro and olympian, a hypejob. You've got to be a real moron to say that
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Not in the least, I just didn't think he was as special as everyone else, and when you have people claiming the man is the next Mike Tyson and a future all time great, because he beat Whyte's cadaver and a gatekeeper with ***** titties. That really grinds my gears.
     
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  3. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Worst thing that can happen is Itauma breaking mentally because he has been so spoiled and hyped. Well, Filip was hailed once too, and look at the road the ring took him through to get the belt.

    Another disgraced heir apparent seeking redemption :lol:
     
  4. Yorbals

    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Moses will come again.
    It’s not like Bigfoot Hrgovic beat him on skill. Itauma is clearly too inexperienced and arrogant to try to beat an iron chinned fighter by decision. Had to go for the KO to prove a point and made himself look foolish.
    If Ray Leonard done the same against say, Marcos Geraldo and gasses himself out, he gets knocked over like a bowling pin too. This is a mental issue for Moses.
    If he learns from this he can be world champion absolutely.
    Hrgovic did the Homer Simpson method of boxing and fair play to him it worked
     
  5. misd669

    misd669 New Member Full Member

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    i love all the pre-fight comments before the fight started about the outcome in itauma's favour
    there was advertising on buses and billboards in london with itauma's picture, basically dismissing hrgovic
    i wonder if those billboards are going to get redone featuring hrgovic
    the way about 98% of people online dismissed him, this was a sweet victory..
    just love reading these post fight comments with itauma supporters, and no doubt the people at queensberry with egg on their faces..
    the fight was billed as ''witness history''
    hrgovic should get billboards and advertising on buses
    ''we winessed history''!!!!
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hype aside, curious as to your genuine opinion on what you expect his next few years to look like?

    I always dread it when you back the guy I'm rooting against because usually you have it right lol
     
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  7. Camps

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    I like how Dan Rafael described it:

    "So, when Hrgovic was still standing as the fight moved into the second half, it was hard to count him out regardless of how far behind he was on the scorecards. He had done what he set out to do — take the green Itauma into deep water and eventually drown him."

    Both Hrgovic and Itauma are very likeable, and they gave us one of the best HW fights in years.

    As for what's next: While I realize Sanchez may be frustrated to have to take another step-aside payday, the reality is that Kabayel beat him convincingly and now the fans want to see these newly disaggregated belts unified -- whether Hrgovic vs Kabayel, or Hrgovic vs Dubois (assuming he gets past Wardley again) ... or Kabayel vs Dubois.... and one of them to take out Gassiev .... whatever.
     
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  8. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    If you can't stop your opponent you better be at least capable of completing the 12 rounds. No and no for Itauma against Hrgovic.

    If they fought again in 3 months time, why would the outcome be any different?
     
  9. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hrgovic knew, consciously or not, what weight he is bringing in. Unless you are a freak like Kabayel (once and then a heavy man with immense stamina like Carnera, Kabayel, or so appear in the history), you gotta either pace yourself or come in between the 200-230 range. The old school 15 rounds trim.

    I reckon the stories of Kabayel getting hit a tad too much in sparring could be related to how relaxed and focused he is, but there is a reason fighters brace and tense up---there is a line between relaxed and getting too loose, and it takes either experience and skill or trust in your whiskers to endure the punishment.

    Bottom line, Itauma is in for a change in pacing, a change in conditioning (if he wants to keep those crowd-pleasing, Hollywood knockouts), or a change in trainers, because I don't believe he has that proactive, relaxed first gear to settle in to rest. He seems to be either preparing a barrage, or defending to counter hard. Everything energy consuming.
     
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  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I made no prediction ahead of the fight just because Itauma took such a step up in comp, but I had hoped for him to show himself to be the next big thing. The talent is there, no doubt, but he showed signs of tiring already in the 3rd. The question was if he could pace himself through if he didn't get the stoppage, but he didn't show that composure and obviously lacks in experience.
     
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  11. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Itauma showed he has ability, he ticked the chin box but experience he lacked, he will get there. He wasnt hurt, he wasnt taking punches, its a hard but valuable lesson. Rebuild, hire a new coach, McGuigan would be great and for the love of god, start doing 12 rounds in sparring.
     
  13. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Funny how the world moves on. Usyk was the champion, and now its time for the next chapter to unfold. Man, I wish we could have seen him against more than three actual top heavyweights.
     
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  14. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    If it were any other fighter, I might be more optimistic about their future. But Itauma as I've mentioned on here in the past, I've never liked the way he reacted to being punched and it's clear that his handlers weren't nearly as confident in him as his hypers were. They clearly knew what I suspected, that he's a 6 round fighter with questionable whiskers and confidence issues. So in spite of all of the ego bolstering nonsense and hard selling of him to the public, they managed him very carefully. They thought Hrgovic was a gamble that was going to pay off as well. After all, he couldn't stop Adeleye when Wardley did. He also almost went the distance with McKean while Itauma took him out in 1. They also most likely thought Itauma could crack his chin when others failed. Well, they gambled and it backfired magnificently! So from here on out, they and Itauma will be incredibly risk averse. So most likely they'll put him back in there with some tailor made soft touches with soft chins. Might put him in with some undefeated unproven bum like Prenga. Get him a strength and conditioning coach, think they have everything figured out. Challenge someone with good whiskers who can't punch for ****. He'll stink out the joint with a boring 12 round decision. Then they'll fling him in there with with a proven fighter with a punch and he'll **** the bed again, because he'll play it too safe, with nightmares of Hrgybear dancing in his head, and get KTFO in the 11th or 12th, because the nervous energy of going deep into another fight will drain his gas tank anyway.:lol: