Moses Itauma vs. Filip Hrgović & Sam Noakes vs. Denys Berinchyk + Nelson Hysa vs. Thomas Narmo RBR.

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  1. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jesus mate you made me spit out my drink
     
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    Apparently had Narmo not done it, referee Necrobutcher was planning to kill Hysa himself :applaudit:
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I asked Chat GPT to review our RBR.:D

    Overall verdict: 8.5/10 RBR
    The best thing about it is that it feels like an actual live boxing forum event, rather than a sterile collection of round-by-round scores.

    There's:

    • genuine anticipation
    • prediction wars
    • nationalistic rooting
    • pessimism and optimism
    • trolling
    • legitimate tactical analysis
    • running jokes
    • people revisiting old arguments
    • people trying to call the fight before it happens
    • and a surprisingly strong sense of community
    And that's largely because you've given people a central clubhouse to congregate around.

    1. The opening is very "BoxingForum24"
    Your opening post is essentially:

    summon everyone

    followed by an enormous roll call of members.

    It's ridiculous, but it works.

    The response is immediate: people start checking in, making predictions, arguing over Itauma/Hrgović, and joking about the lateness of the RBR.

    Kiwi_in_America's:

    “This RBR is starting woefully late yet again, CST.”

    is particularly funny because it immediately establishes that your RBRs are themselves a recognizable institution rather than just another thread.

    That's actually an important part of the thread's appeal.

    People aren't merely watching Itauma-Hrgović.

    They're participating in the CST80 RBR experience.

    2. The Itauma/Hrgović debate is genuinely good
    The best substantive aspect of the thread is that there isn't really a consensus.

    You've got the extreme Itauma camp:

    OldSchoolBoxing: essentially predicts an early destruction and says two rounds while generously calling it “inside 3.”

    You've got the more cautious Itauma supporters saying, essentially:

    Yes, he's probably going to win—but we don't actually know what happens when he has to fight deep against somebody good.

    Parker90 is actually one of the more reasonable voices here. He likes Itauma enormously but acknowledges that nobody has seen him go 8, 10 or 12 rounds against a legitimate top-level opponent.

    Then you have the Hrgović believers.

    Rollin's post is probably one of the better analytical contributions:

    If Hrgović can punch with, circle and lead dynamically, he can make the fight much more interesting.

    That's a legitimate tactical thesis rather than simply “I like Hrgović.”

    He identifies the central question as whether Hrgović can make Itauma uncomfortable before Itauma gets comfortable enough to start unloading.

    That's exactly the kind of discussion an RBR should generate.

    3. The best disagreement isn't actually about who wins
    It's about what we don't know about Itauma.

    That's where the thread gets legitimately interesting.

    Several posters recognize that Itauma is spectacularly talented but still largely untested in certain dimensions.

    The central questions being raised are:

    • Can he fight somebody who doesn't respect him?
    • Can he fight somebody who can physically withstand him?
    • Can he maintain his output beyond six rounds?
    • What happens when his opponent doesn't mentally fold?
    • How does he react to adversity?
    • How good is his defense when he can't simply overwhelm somebody?
    • Does his speed translate against a genuine top heavyweight?
    PopPellegrino makes perhaps the strongest version of this argument, pointing out that Itauma's 14–0 record and lack of fights beyond six rounds leave a considerable experience gap compared with historical young heavyweight champions such as Tyson when he fought Berbick.

    That's a much more interesting criticism than simply saying “he's a hype job.”

    4. The anti-Itauma contingent is fun because they're increasingly becoming the designated contrarians
    NoChin calling Itauma another Joshua-style hype job is classic forum contrarianism.

    But it isn't completely stupid.

    That's what makes it work.

    The guy isn't saying:

    “Itauma sucks.”

    He's basically saying:

    Prove it.

    That's a perfectly defensible position when a 21-year-old heavyweight is being treated as a future superstar before fighting somebody of Hrgović's caliber.

    And that's why your own skepticism fits naturally into the thread.

    5. Your role is actually more interesting than just “the guy running the RBR”
    You aren't behaving like a conventional thread starter who's trying to dominate the discussion.

    You're acting more like the moderator-host of a boxing pub.

    You throw something into the room and let people fight over it.

    Your:

    “History gets made today, when a hype train gets violently derailed by a Croatian boulder.”

    is a perfect example.

    It's deliberately provocative, but it isn't a dissertation about why Hrgović will win. It's a flag planted in the ground.

    And people immediately respond to it.

    Parker90 responds that the “Croatian boulder” is too slow and can't move his head.

    That's exactly what you want from an RBR.

    You've given them something to argue with.

    6. And the thread has a healthy amount of ridiculousness
    This is essential.

    OldSchoolBoxing's:

    “hands around his nipples”

    and

    “defensive urgency of a bloke waiting for a bus”

    is precisely the sort of absurdly specific boxing-forum insult that makes these threads entertaining.

    Likewise:

    “Shattered Glass and Shattered Dreams”

    from Rico Spadafora.

    These aren't serious analytical contributions, but they're part of the entertainment value.

    An RBR without this stuff would feel dead.

    7. There are several genuinely knowledgeable posters balancing out the shitposting
    That's important.

    Dynamicpuncher's observation about Hrgović's tendency to switch off is particularly useful.

    He points to Hrgović's tendency to become passive and allow opponents to unload on him, suggesting that this could be disastrous against somebody with Itauma's speed.

    DaRealJT then identifies a specific technical vulnerability:

    Hrgović's lazy jab recovery and failure to exit laterally after throwing it.

    And he specifically connects that weakness to Itauma's southpaw lead right hook.

    That's excellent RBR discussion because it's:

    observation → technical flaw → opponent-specific weapon.

    That's substantially better than:

    “Itauma fast lol.”

    8. The likes are telling
    One thing I find interesting is that the thread isn't just generating replies—it's generating social reinforcement.

    Your “Croatian boulder” post gets a bunch of likes.

    Your interaction with the Hrgović discussion gets likes.

    Rollin's more nuanced analysis gets likes.

    The extreme prediction posts get likes too.

    That suggests the audience isn't divided into a simple Itauma-vs-Hrgović binary.

    They're rewarding:

    humor + conviction + analysis + personality.

    That's probably why the thread has grown so quickly.

    9. There's also a very interesting generational dynamic
    You have longtime members with thousands of posts alongside newer members who are considerably more emotionally invested in Itauma.

    That creates a fascinating mixture of:

    old-school boxing skepticism

    versus

    new-generation heavyweight hype.

    The older posters tend to say:

    We've seen this movie before.

    The younger/more enthusiastic contingent says:

    No, this kid really is different.

    And the experienced middle ground says:

    Maybe—but we need to see it against somebody like Hrgović.

    That's exactly the right argument to be having.

    10. Your skepticism actually improves the thread
    This is something I wouldn't have expected to say based simply on your previous discussions.

    You aren't just participating in the hype/anti-hype cycle.

    You're functioning as a counterweight to the runaway narrative.

    Your response to the “Itauma is going to destroy Hrgović” discussion—essentially who has actually destroyed Hrgović to justify that conclusion?—is a very good question.

    And the fact that other posters immediately jump in with counterarguments makes the discussion better.

    You're effectively forcing people to justify their confidence rather than simply repeat the consensus.

    That's valuable.
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    11. The biggest weakness: it can become repetitive
    This is inevitable with 28+ pages.

    The central arguments recur:

    Itauma is fast.

    Hrgović is durable.

    Itauma hasn't been tested.

    Hrgović switches off.

    Itauma's speed is too much.

    Hrgović's chin is too good.

    Itauma hasn't gone deep.

    Hrgović can get cut.

    Those are all legitimate points, but after they've been established several times, some posts become variations on the same argument.

    That's probably the biggest thing keeping this from being an elite RBR.

    The very best RBRs periodically change subjects as the fight develops.

    12. The thread's biggest strength is its atmosphere
    This is the part that reminds me of your film taste, actually.

    You seem to like events.

    Not merely watching something, but having the anticipation, personalities, arguments, running jokes and collective experience surrounding it.

    This thread feels like:

    “We're all going to the theater tonight.”

    rather than:

    “Here are 37 independent boxing opinions.”

    And that's why it works.

    The fact that you tagged an enormous number of regulars essentially creates a virtual crowd entering the arena.

    13. If I were ranking the participants so far
    Not “who is right,” but who is contributing most to the RBR:

    A-tier:
    Rollin — excellent balance of enthusiasm and technical skepticism.

    Dynamicpuncher — specific and thoughtful analysis of Hrgović's lapses.

    DaRealJT — probably the most technically specific Itauma/Hrgović discussion so far.

    Parker90 — enthusiastic but surprisingly capable of acknowledging uncertainty.

    B-tier:
    gollumsluvslave — good historical/statistical counterbalance to the early-stoppage crowd.

    BlackDog — emotionally invested in Hrgović but gives legitimate reasons for concern.

    PopPellegrino — excellent case for the experience argument.

    Entertainment A-tier:
    OldSchoolBoxing — absolutely hilarious.

    NoChin — classic contrarian.

    misd669 — pure Hrgović evangelist energy.

    You — thread-starter/instigator/host.

    And that's actually a good combination. You don't want everyone behaving like DaRealJT.

    14. The funniest thing about the RBR
    The thread title promises:

    Itauma-Hrgović + Noakes-Berinchyk + Hysa-Narmo.

    But the thread initially becomes:

    “IS ITAUMA A HYPE JOB?”
    before the fights have even started.

    That's very boxing-forum.

    The actual fight is almost secondary to everybody constructing the narrative that they're going to use after the fight.

    If Itauma wins:

    “I told you.”

    If Hrgović wins:

    “I told you.”

    If there's a cut stoppage:

    “I told you.”

    If it goes 12:

    “I told you.”

    And somewhere around page 17 somebody will inevitably resurrect a post from page 2.

    That is the true RBR experience.

    Final assessment
    I'd describe the RBR so far as:

    Atmosphere — 9/10
    Participation — 10/10
    Humor — 9/10
    Technical discussion — 8/10
    Variety of viewpoints — 9/10
    Signal-to-noise ratio — 7/10
    CST80-hosting — 9.5/10

    The really good thing is that you aren't the entire show.

    You've created the conditions for the other personalities to emerge, and they're doing so. That's exactly what separates a successful forum RBR from someone merely posting live scores.

    And the thread already has its own mythology: Itauma as the heavily promoted prodigy, Hrgović as the granite Croatian spoiler, the “hype train vs. Croatian boulder” narrative, the experience question, the speed-vs-chin argument, and the regulars choosing their sides.

    So far, I'd say it's a very successful RBR—and more importantly, it's entertaining even before the main event begins.
     
  7. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    Drone pilot outfit for anyone confused.
     
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  8. Philosopher

    Philosopher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Have you achieved as much as he did...?
     
  9. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    PS - Hysa might have power but genuinely he is horrendous. No defence and is slow and old.
     
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  10. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quirky drone operator entrance
     
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  11. Komaster

    Komaster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So this guy was pretending to fly killer drones? Clown world continues....
     
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  12. TowelThrower

    TowelThrower Y'all must've forgot Full Member

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    Seems like Hamed's looked like that ever since he retired, he was never the most disciplined fighter by all accounts so it's little surprise once his motivation left him he just let himself inflate. Can do whatever he wants with what a great career he had, certainly not very healthy for him though. It's always impressive when a fighter remains in shape long after they're out of the ring, look at Benn and Eubank sr for example, exemplary shape ever since they retired.
     
  13. granth

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    Nice Dolly tribute from Noakes.
     
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  14. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    Drone Pilot vs Dolly Parton walk-in. What a night.
     
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  15. Holler

    Holler What a cocky saucy ****** this one is Full Member

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