Moses Itauma weakness discovered.

I think people are being way too harsh on moses, a lot saying hes a hype job.

Not true, hes 21 years old and full of talent, he was clearly winning agaisnt a wold level fighter hes not a hype job hes inexperienced and like any young sport man in any sport hes learning on the job and he will.make mistakes.

Remember a young dubois was very similar trying to take every body out until he came up agaisnt thr granite of Joyce and ended up taking a knee.

In hindsight this was a step too soon but you arent to know that until you take the step, sometimes lessons have to be leant the hard way.

Moses belived in his power and his team obviously thought despite hrgovics chin he would go through him like the rest. Itauma now needs to learn he has to let the knock out come than go looking for it, loading up evey shot and blowing himself out, its a gamble to think you are going to fold someone before you gas and of course for him thats the way its always gone so you don't know what you dont know. Of course he needs rounds hes mever been past 6 to go in with this level is pretty crazy and a reality check. But he has the skill all he had to do was get behind his boxing and let the knock out come, its pure inexperience thats all they just need to slow him down a bit now and build that tank and some patience.

 

A great post and voice of reason

 

yeah its a shame if people start to say the kid was nothing to begin with because that just isn't true. If he was just hype, this wouldn't have been a decent fight, it ended up being a real war with Moses showing heart. He looked great throughout the majority of it.

He was just too determined to get the KO. I am more concerned at the damage that may have been done exposing him to a loss like that this early. To me this fight was like seeing an unfinished product with a load of potential thrown to the wolves too early.

I don't really compare him to Tyson but I will say the mentality difference is interesting. Tyson was also known for his aggression and power, but he was intent to drop the KO plan if his opponent showed durability, he'd settle in for a dominant points win and not let the fact his opponent was taking his punches rattle him. Just shows you the schooling and the effect of a great trainer.

 

Wladimir Klitschko, who was a lot more experienced than Itauma, did the same against Ross Purrity, who was nowhere near as good as Hrgovic. So this is far from the end of the world.

 

It's not the same. Klitschko was always huge and technical. Not relying speed and power, always more in the mould of jab/cross/clinch/repeat, skill and size making up for a slightly dodgy chin and tank. Totally different to last night. The more I think about it the more I think this was genuine exposure of deficiencies rather than just inexperienced and gassing.

One thing that surprised me last night - Hrgovic was much, much bigger than Moses.

 

I don't think Ben Davison has a plan B for any of his fighters. You can tell that moses and wardley just knock shite out of eachother every week in the gym, every world class fighter eventually moved on from Davidson and when moses eventually does it will be to his benefit. He's the best in briton by a mile and will come again he will 100% unify.

 

Klitschko evolved over time, earlier in his career he use to look for the knockout more and did go for KO's, the safety first, jab and grab style was later in his career when he got with Manny

 

Plenty of fighters have come back from worse.

Losing by gassing out generally is more fixable than getting chinned. There are more things you can do to put that right, although it takes a lot of hard work regardless.

The big reality check though is that Itauma’s speed/power combo will not be enough on its own to consistently overwhelm durable world class heavies. Every puncher comes across that issue at some point, but it’s arrived earlier for Itauma than most people expected.

It’s a big setback though, for both his career progression and his commercial value. There’s no getting away from that; brushing it off as “leaning curve” is copium.

Hopefully he can regroup, and physically and emotionally is able to overcome it.

 

Klitschko changed his style a lot under Steward. Earlier on in his career he was about 20lbs lighter and bounced around on his feet a lot more in that amateur style while throwing way more volume punches. Go watch the Purrity fight, Klitschko was nothing like the jab, hook, hold merchant he became later on.

 

Don't disagree, I think that's partly the point. Klitschko had the size and skills, the physical and technical attributes that enabled him to adapt.

I just don't see it with Itauma, or at least not the the level of the hype. He's fast and dynamic, looked absolutely sensational for 3 rounds, hand speed was off the scale, but once he got hit flush a couple of times he fell to bits, so my question is really does is have anything in the locker - skills wise, cause it's not size, that means he could get a different outcome next time.

 

At 21 it's too late to improve your cardio

Another classic Phil gem!

 

You are right there. Itauma doesn't have the size to change how Klitschko did and will always rely on speed, movement and output, which will be his issue going forward from this loss. But the first thing he needs to do is ditch Ben Davison.

 

Davison is an absolute chancer, how he's wormed into the corner of so many elite fighters is genuinely shocking. Like Russel Martin or Scott Parker getting jobs managing Barca or PSG. That said, the collapse of Itauma last night goes beyond gassing or bad corner advice. His body seemed to physiologically shut down after 20 minutes of fighting against a man who was still hitting him back.