Moses Itauma

Unfortunately Franklin has no ranking but the logic is correct. Itauma is currently #6 with the WBO, #14 with the IBF and #9 with the WBA. Looking at the rankings Guido Vianello, Justice Huni or Fabio Wardley are the fights that look most likely.

 

Itauma would wipe Franklin out. People laughably said McKean who is basically an mma hobbyist would take him rounds

in the main forum some are arguing Whyte would beat Itauma such as @BubblesUK the biggest Whyte fanboy in history

 

I think the kid has heaps of talent but before we get too overwhelmed why not guide him down the old fashion route , British, European, Commonwealth ( Huni anyone ) before world title cracks

 

Stick him in with someone like Makhmudov next then Joyce.

 

Itauma would do to Whyte what AJ did in the first round except Itauma would finish off the job. Whyte’s chin in china and his feet slow as ****

 

Wardley is Commonwealth champ. Fabio Wardley is the perfect fight for him, gets him the British, Commonwealth and the world ranking.

 

Itauama has all the talent in the world but has only gone six rounds twice.

He needs that confidence to know he's got the engine to comfortably make it through 8 and then 10 rounds at a good pace, because once you step up to championship level, there is no going back, plus there will be no more learning fights.

Similar to Tyson when he had the back-to-back fights against Tillis and Mitch Green, which is where he also got his chin tested.

It's the one mistake Hearn made with AJ; despite getting caught by Whyte, he was rushed into the Martin title fight and never had that real gut check until Klitschko, which in many ways ultimately led to him falling apart against Ruiz.

 

yes exactly and remember Whyte looked to have a great chin in that round taking blow after blow and still standing. I think Joshua might’ve cracked it. Whyte doesn’t have 10% of that chin now. He’s even slower. Less ambition. He’d be pulverised ffs. Show your face in here @BubblesUK and tell us why Whyte would beat him

 

well what would you have suggested for Joshua? 8 years later his best win by far is still retiring 41 year old Klitschko who was breathing out his arse. Joshua was never what he was made out to be. Fury could’ve been great but he was a slob and shady character

 

It's hard to say given the circumstances of the time; the opportunity cost of taking the Martin fight had pluses and minuses; winning led to stadium fights and immense riches but hindered his development as a fighter because the growth stopped once he became champion.

Then, as you say, he was never what he made out to be, so it's possible he could have taken a gut-check Euro-level type fight post-Whyte and come unstuck, and that would have been that. As Teddy Atlas said, " A fight is only a fight when there is something to overcome," and after Joshua went to that place with Klitschko, he never wanted out of his comfort zone again.

Everything in life is an opportunity cost, and that's probably why Hearn decided to roll the dice with Martin instead of building him up through the ranks as Warren may have done. Fast Car has always been far more willing to play Russian Roulette with a fighter's career than Warren ever was.

 

@Aydamn says hi

 

I don’t think it did hinder him because he went on to face absolute stuffs like molina, breazeale, takam, Parker who refused to throw a punch, older guys who are small like povetkin and useless Pulev etc. everyone he beat was overmatched

someone in the other thread said that was same person

 

I'd have to disagree on that

 

Andy Ruiz would be an interesting fight for him now and he is outside of their top 12. Doubt that fight gets made though.

 

Precisely my point: fighting absolute stuffs as you say, means you don't learn anything new, plus it clearly led to complacency and delusion within the camp; thus he crumbled against Ruiz when he was next dragged into deep water.

But, Hearn built Matchroom boxing on the back of those PPV nights; pretty much everything else lost money at the time, and after going life and death with Klitschko, what with Fury being MIA, it was easier for him to just simply rinse the public and milk the cash cow.

Whereas look at Dubois: the Miller and Hrgovic fights have improved him beyond recognition, whereby he literally laughed when bully-boy tried to intimidate him and then poleaxed him in the ring, to the point Joshua/Hearn completely swallowed the rematch.

Same with Fury; he didn't hesitate getting in the ring with Wilder; you either have it in you or you don't, especially at that level.