Mosley by Brutal KO!!!!

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  1. Quik

    Quik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto saw some stars on this punch but he came back to win the fight by tko.
    It happens sometimes maybe he didnt see the punch coming but anyway every fighter recieves a punch like that from times to times. Anyway Cotto always start his fights slowly and finishes strong and for SSM its the opposite.
    On the later rounds, Cotto's punches are gonna be affecting Mosley alot and he wont be able to compete.
     
  2. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Damn . . . I'm a fan of both and this is a situation where I can't decide who to root for. :patsch :huh

    I don't know, I'm leaning on Shane . . . but I doubt if he can put Cotto down at this point. Cotto just peaking and improving on every fight.
     
  3. Druid

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    Before the last half dozen Cotto fights people have said "he hasn't fought anyone like _____", so many people picked Judah over Cotto and now again Mosely. I am a big Mosley fan, but Cotto is very dangerous for Mosely at this weight. Someone said it took 11 rounds for Cotto to do to Judah what it took Tszyu did with one punch. KT never did to Judah what Cotto did, Cotto beat Judah up. Speaking of Tszyu , perhaps what the younger Hatton did to Tszyu would be the better comparison to be made here.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You make some good points, but I'm going to have to call you out on a few things. Number 1, while Shane hasn't been racking up KO's since 2002, he also has been fighting some skilled boxers and some guys with good chins. Forrest and Estrada are the only two guys that Shane fought during this time period who have been KO'd during their careers(both were KO'd after they fought Shane). Also, Cotto has been rocked because of poor defensive technique and a questionable chin. Stop blaming the weight issues. If him fighting at 140 were causing him to not fight at his best, and to almost get KO'd then he shouldn't have fought at that weight. It's OK for him to beat up on smaller men, but when one of them rocks him, the excuses start flowing.
     
  5. Druid

    Druid Member Full Member

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    You don't have to make excuses for an unbeaten fighter, the record speaks for itself.
     
  6. BoxingGuru

    BoxingGuru Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think more people ignore ******ed statements like Mosley is good and Cotto is not. Why don't YOU face reality. The 4 times Shane Mosley stepped it up he got beat. He also lost to DLH the second time.
     
  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Saying a guy is getting hurt because he's weight drained is an excuse.
     
  8. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shane wins by close decision.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I hope you realize you disproved your own argument. Shane beat DLH twice. The first time he jumped from 135 to 147 to do it. The second time he jumped to 154 to do it(all three judges as well as every ring side observer had Shane winning that fight). If this isn't steeping up, I don't know what is. Also the other 4 times he stepped up and lost were against two guys. Two guy who were much bigger than Shane and were highly skilled.
     
  10. Druid

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    An excuse for beating everyone he ever fought?

    However, You just have to look at his later 140 fights to see that weight drain was affecting him, stamina more than anything. People always bring up Corley stunning him and he did, with a perfect shot, but Judah wasn't as effective, I have to think the same people would have to admit that Judah has more power.
     
  11. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So are you implying that Shane softened up Forrest for Mayorga and Estrada for Cintron? :huh And Collazo had been stopped years before in 3 rounds.

    Like you mentioned, Cotto shouldn't have been fighting at 140 in the first place. But either way, he did. And it's obvious, excuse or not, that cutting weight effected his durability. If that wasn't the case, and he truly couldn't take a punch from a fighter like Corley, then that uppercut Judah landed on him in the first would have laid him out cold.
     
  12. Svengali

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    Mosley by brutal KO.

    I like it.

    :good
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You're crazy if you don't think Judah ever hurt him. Also, let's not try to pretend his defensive liabilities and questionable chin had nothing to with him getting hurt in that ring. James Toney was notourious for having weight issues. He pretty much had to go on a water and lettuce diet before fights. However, he never got tired, and he was never hurt while he was at the lower weights. This is an extreme example, but it shows if you have sound defensive abilities you won't be on the verge of getting KO'd against guys like Torres, weight issues or not.
     
  14. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    In no way was I implying the Shane softened Forrest or Estrada. My point is that they have shown through their careers that they are far from easy to KO, and when Shane fought them, nobody had knocked them out. Regardless of Collazo's KO loss early in his career, it's safe to say that his style will make it hard for any WW to KO him.

    I don't think Cotto has a weak chin. I think he gets hit with too many punches that he should avoid, and that his chin is questionable. What helps him is that when he does get hurt, he doesn't panic. He retreats, and collects himself(and sometimes goes low). That's why he was able to wheather the storm against Judah(that and Judah get's way too excited when he gets a guy in trouble)
     
  15. Druid

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    I don't think Judah ever truly hurt Cotto, he stunned him, stopped him in his tracks, but Cotto didn't seem in any danger at any point during that fight. So, Judah (a good fighter with decent power) got in four or five shots worth mentioning and that was it over 11 rounds! He otherwise got totally beaten up. I know Cotto has a vulnerable defense, that has to do with his relentless offense.
    No question that at 147 he is taking harder shots with greater ease and is giving hell back.