Mosley & De La Hoya Meet Jackson & Norris

In their primes I dont think Mosley or DLH could beat Jackson and Norris at middle or junior middle. Too big for those guys.

 

Jackson & Norris beat both. Of course they could pick up a win over Terry.

 

Jackson would have a war with Shane for the first couple of rounds, and then Shane would either get KO'd or, having felt Jackson's power, would immediately revert to survival mode the rest of the fight to evade getting KO'd.

Trinidad would get KTFO by Jackson. Trinidad versus a bigger man that hits even harder than he does doesn't bode well for him at all.

DLH at his best outboxes Jackson, and he has a chin of tempered steel, but he has to fight his most disciplined fight possible to pick up the win. Even though Jackson has a weak chin and was hurt by Norris and KO'd by McCallum, DLH would be best off to avoid engaging with Jackson and box. DLH certainly hit hard at 154-probably harder than Norris, but not as hard as McCallum, and not hard enough to justify the risks of getting in a shootout with Jackson, even though Oscar has a superior chin. If DLH could be stopped by anyone at 147-154, the two best bets are Hearns and Jackson. Oscar needs to be very careful in this one.

Shane vs. Norris would be an awesome fight to witness. Awesome foot and hand speed from both guys. A focused Norris would outbox Shane, but idk if Norris could stay focused the whole time and not suffer a mental hiccup of some kind along the way. If he does lose focus, Shane could catch that suspect chin, as could DLH or Trinidad.

I think Shane would give a focused Norris the most problems though, as he's the only one who can come close to him in speed. DLH had impressive handspeed and certainly wasn't slow or plodding, but he tended to fight more flat-footed at 154. He didn't bounce the same way he did at the lower weights, probably an acknowledgment of the fact he needed to set his feet more to generate more power against the bigger men he started to face at 154.

Trinidad, in spite of his concussive power, would face a horrible matchup in Norris. Norris had respectable power, great boxing skill, and tremendous speed from the tapes I've seen of him. I think Norris could easily outbox the at-times ponderous, basic Trinidad, and probably do it more emphatically than DLH did.

Shane vs DLH, we've seen what happened between them at 154. We saw what happened between Oscar and Trinidad at 147. We also saw what happened between Norris and Jackson at 154, though I think that was slightly before Norris' prime and a prime Norris would have given a better accounting of himself.

As for Shane vs Trinidad, I think Shane would be a bit outmatched at 154 vs. Trinidad. Too easy to hit, to willing to trade, and he would suffer for it in a war he'd ultimately lose.

If all of these guys fight each other, DLH, Jackson, and a focused Norris do best, and Trinidad and Mosley lose out most likely.

I can't see Norris going through 4 fights with these guys without something going wrong though, so I imagine the final match of the tournament would be DLH vs Jackson. That one's close to a toss-up, though I'd very slightly favor the DLH that fought Vargas and Mosley the second time to eke out a decision. The more squared-up, less mobile DLH that fought Mayorga and Mayweather gets ravaged though.

 

That's a tall order for all those guys...

I'd give the edge to Jackson and Norris in every match, although Tito vs Jackson at 154 would be the can't miss match out of the batch.

 

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With Terry's chin I am not sure he would be such a sure bet to beat Mosley or Oscar. I think Mosley would reach that chin and Oscar might.

 

but norris could beat all of them persoanlly. and i think could give oscar a real drumming. quick center line combinations with slippign attacks and not gunshy to brawl with him and has a great outside game aswell.

jackson like always could obliterate all of them but i don think he can really do it to oscar or mosley. mos gets inside too well and is hard to catch clean where as oscar might take more shots is too smart to stay in any sort of danger. let jackson walk on to him and throw off 3 hit combos then out.


think mosley could perform the best.

 

Mosley and DLH get their asses handed to them.

 

the one thing Mosley and DLH lack when it comes to Jackson and Norris is punching power at those weights, but Mosley and Oscar were more elite than those two guys, and Norris was rocked by a jab against Simon Brown. I know he won the rematch, but his chin was not good. It woudl be tough for Mosley and Oscar, but that chin and the way Norris left himself open at times meant this fight is winnable. Jackson? Hard to figure. They would win the rounds but couldn't be hit clean. Tough fight. The fact they are smaller than Julian is not good, but I still think a smart fight they could win in a decision.

 

I think that size would be the ultimate factor here. Assuming this is at 154, Norris would befuddle them with speed. However I do agree that his bravery worked against him at times. But Mosley and DLH were just a bit too small for him.

Julian Jackson is totally another beast. Just entirely too much firepower. Oscar and Shane would be fighting to survive.

 

No but they were better imo

 

Jackson and Norris were bigger. What elite fighter has either of them knocked out? Look at Oscar vs Sturm or Oscar vs BHop. Both those guys were smallish middleweights and Oscar was overpowered. Shane never really KO'd a big guy besides Margarito but Margo is a stationary punching bag.

 

Hop is anything but a smallish middleweight.