Mosley & De La Hoya Meet Jackson & Norris

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Quick Cash, Jan 23, 2012.


  1. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jackson and Norris shared the same weakness - both hittable and neither had the greatest chin. Mosley and ODH at their best had enough speed, footwork, and punching power that they could eventually nail those guys with the big one, and even if they didn't stop them, they could get enough respect to box to a decision. Same with Trinidad - too much power for those guys. I think Trinidad stops both, although he perhaps gets decked by Jackson early and outboxed by Norris until he takes them out. Norris was being groomed for a fight with either Trinidad or ODH, but he blew it when he got KO'd by Mullings.
     
  2. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hes not really a big middle. He was often in the 157 range for his fights. Mosley and DLH were former lightweights. Jackson and Norris were not.
     
  3. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I agree, although I think they might be able to match Norris in speed. Jackson would be a case where they would have to fight disciplined the whole fight. Jackson fooled people I think. He would lull them into false security and then land a huge punch.. The way he could land clean on people was amazing.
     
  4. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    hopkins not a big middleweight???

    monzon came under 160 a few times, but his strength and length was evident.

    hops wide shoulders and arms coupled with his wiry body and ruler legs. he was a big middleweight. nearing 6'2 and built like a stealth bomber the waist up.
     
  5. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins normally rehydrated to 169 pounds at the tail-end of his middleweight run. Had he not maintained discipline in himself, he would have had to move up sooner than he did- the dude was that big.

    Now, I don't know about Jackson and Norris, but Mosley and Hoya tipped in at 155 and 152 respectively when they fought each other the first time. That was around what most would consider their prime years, I think.
     
  6. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    Norris was by no means a big Super Welterweight. He routinely came in low, 150-153 far more often than 154 on the button in fact. He was small for the weight. In fact, I remember reading that the plan was for Norris to relinquish the 154 pound belt to move down in weight for a showdown with DLH at 147 in early 1998. King also planned for Trinidad to claim Terry's now-vacant belt, as Trinidad won a WBC 154 pound title eliminator vs. Troy Waters just 4 months before Norris got KO'd by Mullings, which ruined everybody's plans.

    Jackson was a natural 154 pounder and a small middleweight, and he didn't have the type of frame to fill out well. He even dropped back down to 154 for the last couple fights of his career.

    Mosley, while significantly smaller than Jackson, was probably close to being the same size as Norris, especially the juiced version DLH fought.

    DLH may have started his career at 130, but he did fill out well in time to be a full-fledged super welterweight. Just look at his fights with Mayorga and Floyd- he looked huge in both of those fights. The only time where he looked significantly smaller than his opponent at 154 was against the roided-up Vargas.

    In terms of physical size, Jackson is the biggest man, Trinidad is second, DLH is a close third, and Norris and Mosley are both tied for 4th/5th.
     
  7. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Norris was always physically bigger than ODLH