Mosley: "I'm Just As Fast As Mayweather, Just As Slick, And I Can Outbox Him Too"

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  1. southsidegym

    southsidegym Active Member Full Member

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    I just have to comment on this, you always hear everyone say floyd cant punch but every single fighter says after the fight that he punches harder than they thought Shane has a UNIVERSE class chin no doubt. but so did dela-hoya and there was one point in that fight where floyd hit him in the forehead with a short counter than on the chin with a full rightcross if they weren't on the ropes hoya would have hit his knees if oscar was lesser fighter or one with a weaker chin he would have went to Sleep the ropes and oscar fight instincts saved him from that point on it was preety much floyds fight . Hatton had a great chin to get to be 43 and 0 WITH HIS DEFEANCE!!! he was able to take floyd punches up to a point while getting timed on the check hook with the strait right, marquez is a soldier and floyd knows that he is skilled enough to knock anybody out who trades with him so kept him at the end of his jab the whole fight.
    out of 40 fight dude has 25 knockout and they are mostly against fighters with great chins, there is a time in the fight where floyd is going to catch with a punch to control the fight. shane is going after the punch to end the fight but will start to respect floyd power it wont be the hardest he has tanken but he will have to adjust to it because if he do his punch wide with his eyes closed he willed get timed on wobbled or stunned
     
  2. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mosley needs to turn this into a very physical, and dirty fight. he will have to jab a lot more, and above all else go to the body with his left hooks. when he chooses to be, mosley is an excellent body puncher, and his jab is quite decent as well. if they are in close quarter mosley better make it rough.
     
  3. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea I won't buy into what Mosley says here, just like I won't buy when Floyd ends up saying he's going toe to toe... Team Mosley will have to create a great game plan and stick with it. Nazim will give him a great third person set of eyes and hopefully help him to adjust throughout this and find exactly what is gonna break Floyd down. Shane will have to fight a composed aggressive fight.
     
  4. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He can be, and we've seen great offense throughout his career. However we haven't seen it against a guy as fast, strong, and just all around as gifted as Shane. They both have weaknesses it's just who can exploit whose.. I just think this is gonna be an eye opener when Shane is able to hit Floyd more than thought possible. I plan on seeing Floyd land and cleanly, I just think Mosley will put some Bodywork and some musclin inside to break Floyd late.:thumbsup Can't wait...Excited...
     
  5. southsidegym

    southsidegym Active Member Full Member

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    mosley is going to whoop floyd ass but he will do it in the process of losing it 7 to 5 maybe even 8-4 but floyd wont look like he can go right to the afterparty
     
  6. kirk

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    this talk is dissapointing...... surely nazim will bring shane to his senses? Its always foolish to throw away your advantages (in this case, size, strength, aggression, power) and fight to the others strengths (skillset, ability, generalship, slickness)

    Shane is not, never has been and probably never will be 'slick'....
     
  7. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He won't try it...
     
  8. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    It bis just allm talk at the moment.

    For one thing, slick fighters or seni-slick fighters who get old would resort to clinching. Evenb the great ones like Ali used it in the twilight of his career.

    The first thing you will notice when someone gets old is the hands peed would not be the same, the footspeed would be affected, and their stamina would probably last them halfway before gassing out. The power however would be the same or greater because they tend to plant their feet more or try to finish their opponent earlier tha usual before they are brought to deeper water, which is the championship rounds.

    So I don't expect Mosley to be "cutesy" in this fight. They have big advantage in terms of size especially if Mosley intetionally comes in big, like 160 pounds big. If that is the case, then you expect Mosley to make the fight ugly and expect lot of clinching and wrestling and positioning, throwing punches at very very close.

    However, if Mosley comes in at around 154 +/- few pounds, then you expect Mosley to be agile, and box, which I believe is the wrong strategy. You can not outbox a younger, more mobile, technically sound boxer.

    If Mosley thinks he has advantage in reach, that is however a misconception as although technically, his arm lengtth is longer, Mayweather does not initiate action first, btu rather counterpunch even against the smaller JMM. Therefore, if Mosley is waiting for Mayweather to throw first, he is in for a long wait. If Mosley throws first, he would be counterpunched because there is a significant difference in Handspeed now. Against Margarito, Mosley is damn sure very fast, but even Cotto is fast against Maragrito. And Mayweather is at least 3 to 4 times faster than Margarito.
     
  9. BOXING/MMAFAN

    BOXING/MMAFAN The Fan Full Member

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    hmmmm shane is fast enough to compete with floyd definitly but he aint going to out box him not now... but he has the power for sure so i guess we will find out
     
  10. difO

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    man i cant wait for this fight.. i want to see mayweather pushed and being forced to fight at this weight, should be beautiful.

    hope shane ko's him though :S
     
  11. slantone

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    i think the thing that give Mosely a big chance is that he's ring generalship and ring smarts are almost at Floyds level. he s about as smart as floyd.

    every fighter they throw in with floyd goes on about being bigger, stronger, and so on, even faster- but it takes smarts to beat floyd.

    i think mosely has that composure, that ability to adjust, to think on the run , to set traps and traps for traps, that will serve him well.

    People can point to guys like winky and cotto and forest who all out boxed shane, and that is the counter argument.

    I think this fight is in shanes hands. If he fights safe- i think its a rerun of Winky/Mosely or Oscar/Floyd- where he gets beat close but clean. If he can adjust and outthink - perhaps he can do this. - try and outstink and out think floyd- make it a boring potshot contest. then maybe. but that is against his instinct against boxers. so who knows?

    Floyd is and deserves to be a clear favourite though.
     
  12. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I saw that and I'm surprised that the commentators/more people didn't notice. Floyd doesn't usually sit on his punches but when he does, he can inflict damage. People who call Floyd "feather fisted" must have not seen too many of his fights. He can put guys away and I bet Shane will be unpleasantly surprised in that fight.
     
  13. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's not feather fisted he just has brittle hands. Floyd has a history of hand injuries, that is why he punches a lot less than he did during his earlier career. That is why he has injections in his hands before every fight to help the pain.

    Floyd has power but he has to us it sparingly.
     
  14. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    Add to this... Mosley has to throw the left to the body above Mayweather's right elbow. Mayweather likes to counter hooks to the body with short uppercut with the right hand.

    Mosley will probably need to throw the left to the body above Mayweather's elbow to pin the arm down for a moment ; delaying that quick counter with the right uppercut.
     
  15. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    Yeah . And they also seem really small hands to me. They look kinda puny in a way. when i look at them I think of the burger king commercials . you know like this one:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Obn3d4SqE[/ame]