Mosley or Pac is more Dangerous for Floyd?

I think they both have their own dangers.... unique to their own and i cant really say 'well shane is DEF more dangerous then pac' or that pac is DEF more dangerous then mosley.

Pac has very effective pressure, where i find shane doesnt apply proper effective pressure, and is more a boxer puncher, and i think Pacs 10 punch combos are a great weapon, coupled with his speed and power.... hes much more mobile then Mosley and whos defence is starting to improve drastically, and im wanting to say that mosley at this stage, with pacs d having improved, is easier to hit then pac.

But Shane brings size and strength.... and has his own brand of power as well, will be able to 'bully' easier due to his strength, and in a way i think is actually hungrier for this win then pac is.

both great fights....

 

Surely we are going to have some semblence of context when citing Pacs win over Cotto.... as opposed to shanes loss. They fought two very different cottos, at two different stages of his career.

Boxing is never as simple as 'ya well.... this guy beat that guy who beat this guy who beat HIM, so ya... this guy is better'

Mosley fought Cotto at the height of Cottos powers and ability.... Pac fought Cotto after taking two beatings in three fights, and having been truly 'broken' in the marg fight physically and mentally, and no longer had a proper trainer or training regime. I have no doubt Mosley would have beaten that Cotto as well.... though i dont think he would have done it as offensively spectacular as pac.

Im not taking anything away from Pacs win.... it was superb, and the only fighter i can think of from 140-147 who would have destroyed cotto in that fashion, but its not as simple as saying 'pac beat the guy that beat mosley, therefore hes better or rated higher'

There are examples of how this doesnt translate littered throughout the history of boxing.

 

Well then man dont know what to tell you, its completely, completely obvious in just about everything cotto does in the ring that hes different now (look at the jennings fight, the clottey fight for prime example) In fact, he doesnt even THROW his hooks the same, let alone keep his composure the same as before.... its about as obvious as night and day to me. But whatever....

you say you dont need a,b,c explained to you, yet your doing exactly that by saying pac > mosley because pac beat cotto and mosley lost to cotto.... lol...

whatever, your going to believe what you want.... Its obvious to me and a lot of people who see the cotto of today that hes not the cotto that beat judah quintana and mosley, and id wager confidently that if they had a rematch today that mosley would beat cotto.... and that he would have beaten him if it was him in the ring instead of jennings, clottey, and pac as well.

Fernando Vargas went from dominating campas, ike and giving winky and tito all they could handle to having his hands full with the likes of rivera (getting dropped hard) and flores (getting wobbled, by a former sparring partner) in the fights right after the beating from tito, this is nothing new.... It happens, just like it happens that some fighters have tough fights and come back as if nothing happens (gatti, rafael marquez, morales, ect). Some fighters often hit a decline after a certain beating in their careers, and to me cotto was one of them, and i saw that as early as the jennings fight, it was solified in the clottey fight when i saw him throwing his hooks as arm/back punches instead of the home run digging type shots hes known for, and the complete loss of technique and composure from middle rounds on.... From cottos beating and breaking from margarito, bad sparring, training camps, trainer problems, loss of discipline in his technique, ect... i can watch about 6 rounds of the cotto from the jennings/clottey fights and tell hes not at the same level he was pre margarito. is he still a top shelf fighter? hell ya... but hes not as good as he was.

So i take it then that you would pick cotto in a rematch against mosley? considering as you take it cotto is just as good now as he was when he was hungry, undefeated and coming off wins off of judah and quintana?

Anyways, your going to believe what you want.... again its obvious to me Cotto is on the decline. But Pac isnt somehow above Mosley just because he beat Cotto and Shane didnt.... Thats simply a factor in the argument, not the 'thats it, case closed' be all end all of the argument.

But anyways, to each their own i guess.... and im not trying to discredit pac, like i said.... he did what no other welter IMO would do in the way he dismantled Cotto, and as for Cotto, a fighter has to learn to adapt and adjust when fighting past his best and so its just as big a testament to how good a fighter is how he fights past that as it is on how he fights in his prime, so im not making a cop out for anyone... im simply callling it out i see it. Which is Pac beat a Cotto that was already very shopworn and past his best.... but still very much a dangerous and top fighter, but one i think Mosley would have beaten if it was him that got to fight that Cotto.

anyways, im not trying to come off as im lecturing you about anything, if thats how it is coming off, just saying my take on it.... and just saying why i disagree with you. but to each their own.

But as for my question im honestly curious, you would pick Cotto to beat Mosley in a rematch right now?