Mosley or Pac is more Dangerous for Floyd?

It doesn't make him punch better, it allows him to punch normally. Not only that, but xylocaine is perfectly legal. It's not even on the banned substance list. How is taking a legal incjection of something that allows you to function normally and is not on the banned subtsance list cheating? Would it be cheating if a boxer got corrective eye surgery? I mean this would allow them to see better and thus perform at a higher level.

 

It allows him to punch normally from having a shite punch and even less output....thats like saying is someone has a glass chin and they only upgrade it to normal/average its not cheating? BS, its the very meaning of performance enhancing. You are changing a part of yourself using something unnatural to enhance your performance, in Floyds case, allow him to punch more than hes usually capable of.

Its banned in something like 49 states. Its not cheating in Nevada but cheating everywhere else. lol. Funny how suddenly Nevada's protocols are correct and mighty yet you guys are the same people saying Nevada's drug testing protocols are a joke and needs to be changed.

That said, i'll stop the cheating accusations when floydtoys supply proof for all this steroids BS, else they can stfu about it.

 

sugar shane by a mile, mayweather want outclass shane like he would manny.sugar shane is a monster, hes got the power, hes got the speed, new trainer, experience, mentally tough, great stamina, heart, chin, brains in the ring etc etc.

mayweather's style in this fight will make him have to fight a perfect one, he want stop shane late like he could do manny.mayweather can bet the house this will be 12rder fight.mayweather would beat manny, to small, not as powerful as most think, speed would not be a problem either.

shane is big enough and good enough to maybe upset mayweather, manny causes fits in and there, but fits dont win fights.mosley by a mile and its for less money, go figgure.

 

But that is NOT normal. His normal ability hurts him and may break his hand during specific punches. That is normal. The discussion is really, would results be different without it.
That is a tough one to answer. It is a slippery slope. If you say yes here, then you are making an arbitrary line where drugs affects boxing matches. How about the next boxer with the next drug?

 

I want you to find me some credible evidence that this is true. I can tell you right now that it isn't. Not only that, but the evidence that crazed Pacfans are using to try to paint Mayweather as a cheater is from 2001 or 2002. Xylocaine is a numbing agent. If you use it, then you are unable to tell when you have injured your hands during a fight. Any prolonged or constant usage of it, would totally **** up a fighter's hands. This basically means that any usage of it by Mayweather has been sporadic at best. Regardless, it's a legal substance and is not on the banned substance list. You might as well call boxers who take a tylenol to relieve pain as PED users as well.

 

I was saying i dont need the whole abc thing explained to me because I knew straight away someone was gonna try be clever and reply with that post. I understand the logic behind it. However, in this instance, there is some truth to it, not the whole truth but enough to make you sit back and think. Simply because Shane & Pac both used speed and power to beat Cotto, its not like a Pac/Margo vs Cotto where the style is completely different. I thought Pac was the more superior fighter based off their common opponent.

I dont care for Vargas history, not much of a fan.

I would take Cotto over margo in a rematch without bricks. Mosley/Cotto would be 50/50 as first fight was close anyways and I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if Cotto beats him again.

Boxing fans are fickle. Mosley goes life and death with Mayorga, destroys brickfists without his bricks and a guy tailormade for him and suddenly hes the ultimate again. BS. Cotto/Mosley/Margo all roughly on the same level, just a case of who beats who first. If Cotto fought Margo first and get demolished, then Mosley fights Margo and beats him, Cotto then fights Mosley and wins, everyone will be singing how top of his game and back in his prime Cotto is. Matter of fact this scenario is just like the ones thats just transpired, all 3 guys are in the same shape with the same results...just a case of timing of the fights to show who is champ.

 

But it's not normal. Prolonged participation in the sport has damaged his hands. I have condition which has steadlily decreased my vision. My bad vision is normal for me in the sense that it's been that way for a while. However, my vision is anything but normal. If I played a sport and decided to wear contacts, am I now a cheater because I took steps to enable myself to have normal vision? It's the same concept. The drug does not allow him to punch harder. It allows him to punch with power naturally generated by his body and technique. Again, we're talking about a legal substance that we don't even have proof that he's used within the past 8 or 9 years.

 

http://sportsalchemist.com/?p=608
http://hometestingblog.testcountry.com/?p=6051
http://www.insideboxing.com/Columnist/frank_gonzalez/sharkies_machine_april_21.htm

http://www.nowboxing.com/2010/01/mayweathers-pain-killer-xylocaine-should-be-banned-in-nevada/7571/

Im not about to go into every state commision for boxing website to find the proof for you. Afterall, you guys should be used to throwing around accusations without proof.

to quote an article:

"Xylocaine is nothing like taking an over the counter pain relief pill, if I took an aspirin and punched a wall hard I will still feel that pain, if I injected Xylocaine in my hands and punched the wall it would numb that area and reduce that sensation of pain so I don’t feel it in my hands."

Its performance enhancing, no way around it. Floyd is able to perform better than hes capable of by using this drug. This is like injecting your chin so you can take a punch....funny that, exactly what many has accused Pac of, increasing his punch resistance. In Floyds case, samething, except for his chin, for his fist.

 

OK, atleast your actually breaking it down in your head rather than just reading records on boxrec and basing your entire analysis on that. lol. I disagree with your assessment, I think your partially swayed by Cotto's losses subconciously, perhaps because of his damaging defeats you can see his flaws better? To me he doesnt look different at all, just tougher comp...Mosley was his toughest before and he nearly faded towards the end too. Anyways like you said, agree to disagree...we obv have just broken this down differently :good

 

That is normal. That is part of the game. How about guys whos chin has been damaged...say guys like RJJ. If RJJ started injecting his chin that somehow made it tougher to revert it back from glass to "normal" then would it not be cheating? "normal" for jones at this stage is glass, "normal" for PBF is brittle...anything that makes that better via use of drugs is performance enhancing.

 

Where is your proof that it's banned in 49 states? Why is it not on the banned substance list? It's not illegal. Untill it becomes illegal, it's nothing but a red herring used to by Pac fans in an effort to deflect attention off his possible PED usage.

 

Bad vision is normal for many people. Does wearing contacts or getting laser eye surgery make them cheaters? The purpose of the drug is not to make you punch harder. Its purpose is to allow you to punch period.

 

****, I posted 3 articles saying its banned in 49 states, all more credible than you. WHere is your proof its not? Find me even 1 article saying its not.