Mosley, PAC, Floyd to be #1 ATG?

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can any one from them still become considered #1 ATG
    (in general, not only in the nuthuggers heads)
    ... say if he beats convincingly the two others?

    I guess Msoley has the lesser chances since his career
    is closest to the end and his loses are worse than PAC's.
    So if Mosley would beat Mayweather and PAC he probably
    would end up in top 10 max.

    Mayweather's unbeaten record would play against PAC's
    best wins at the highest weight limit (WW), if I could chose
    between these two I would go with PAC since his possible
    wins over bigger Mosley and Maywether would be more significant
    than potential Mayweather's wins over smaller PAC and Mosley.
    Also the number of wins for PAC against other top 100ATG
    (Barrera, Morales, Marquez, DLH, Floyd, Mosley) and HOF'ers
    would be unmatched in the boxing history.
     
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  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Floyd:

    Beat Mosley
    Beat Pacman
    Move up and gain a piece of the Middleweight championship - Defend it once.
     
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  3. lfc18titles

    lfc18titles Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac

    beat floyd

    beat williams

    beat floyd again

    beat bradley

    floyd

    beat shane

    beat pac

    beat williams

    beat another top top boxer
     
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  4. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If PAC beats himself then I guess his claim to be the best would be
    at least controversial depending if you look on this as a win or lose :lol:
     
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  5. PBA

    PBA Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think he means:


    Pac:

    beat floyd

    beat williams

    beat floyd again

    beat bradley


    floyd:

    beat shane

    beat pac

    beat williams

    beat another top top boxer
     
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  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I doubt if anyone of these guys would ever be considered the best of all time but at the moment if we had to make a call we'd have to give that "chance" to Manny.
     
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  7. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: I see it now, my bad :gsg


    ... but why is Paull WIllimas considered to be a key for the 1ATG status?
     
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  8. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    If Manny KO's Clottey, then beats Floyd and Shane convincingly....I don't see how he can't be at least considered, maybe he'd have to beat one more guy at WW but you would have to seriously overrate the all time greats if you place anyone above him if and when he does this, IMO
     
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  9. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    No ****ing way are any of them #1 ATG. What a stupid question
     
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  10. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    :lol: You need to get more of a historical context pal.
     
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  11. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Nope. There are still fighters with better resumes and ability.
     
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  12. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bring the context here.

    If you look from historical point of view I cant see many other boxers
    who are 5-6 division champions and beat as big number of OTHER
    legitimate ATG (assuming either of PAC or FLoyd beat Mosley and eachother).
     
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  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I know.

    They had to fight in less divisons with one title, often conceding weight, fighting more regularly with smaller gloves. This 6 division champ thing is bull****.
     
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  14. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea but Pac isnt really a 6 division champ, being undisputed is all that really counts..... I dont really consider his mopping the floor with david diaz making him lightweight champ :-(

    Fighters back then had to fight real contenders

    These days its alot of hyping to make decent wins seem like some kind of atg acomplishment
     
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  15. Flea Man

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    Exactly.

    Floyds resume is childs play compared to Say, Roberto Durans. Duran also had more ability.

    When you get to Ezzard Charles, Ray Robinson, Henry Arsmtrong and Harry Greb you're laughing if you think Floyd, Pac or Mosley could attain that level.
     
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