Mosley, PAC, Floyd to be #1 ATG?

I agree. As I said in my previous post, PBF and Pac has a chance but the things they have to do (beat the other 2 more than once, beat another 2-3 elites) is unlikely because of the skill, luck and time it needs to be done.

For PBF - Mosley, Pac x 2, Cotto, Marg, Bradley, PWilliams
For Pac - Mosley, PBF x 2, Bradley, Marg, Clottey, Berto

Basically you are asking these 2 to achieve GREATER things than they had in their peak age (26-30). Yeah, nothing is impossible, but that is a lot to ask.

 

:?:?:?:? Why? Pac needs to beat Fraud once. Pacquiao doesn't need to move up another weight class. Seriously to face Williams.

Anyway, back to the topic. I voted for none! Pacquiao and Mayweather have chance to be second only to Sugar Ray Robinson.

 

Why does the #1 ATG need to beat Bradley??

 

Well it is all relative. It can be anyone but it has to be in the top 3 or top 5 of any given weight class. Since Mosley, Pac and PBF occupy the top 3- Berto and Clottey are reasonable opponents. But the key is still beating the other 2 and more than once. That itself is the hardest part.

And things changed. And 1-2 years Bradley, Berto, etc can end up being legit elite with 2 or 3 good wins. Picture Berto beating Cotto, Marg and Clottey convincingly. That would put him on a different level. Or it can go the other way and they end up losing and become lower than they are now.

But yeah, that is a lot of ifs , that is why I said it is unlikely.

 

Exactly, were not talking p4p today, were talking #1 ATG Bradley, Berto, and Clottey mean nothing, and they don't even get into the conversation. Mayweather Pac and Mosley are the only relavant welters left.

 

You don't know much about weight, do you? Even when the number of pounds between Jones and Ruiz would have been as big as the number of pounds bettween Walcott and Choinsky the second one would still be more impressive. Because weight means more he lower it is. 33 Pounds between welterweight and cw are 5 weightclasses by today's standards. Lhw to hw are three. There's a reason for that.

Pac isn't much smaller than Floyd or Mosley nowadays, if at all. Nor comparable by a long shot. Neither of these guys is Top30 at the moment. Floyd scratches at the Top50 and Mosley is perhaps Top70-80. Can't see any of them reaching atg #1 status. Even Top20 is a stretch.

 

Mike is set in Stone nobody Feels Kobe is better then Jordan an Lebron will Never get a Ring so he will never even be able to Match Kobe
Unless NY gets Wade and Lebron

 

I am a big MJ fan as much as the next guy but let us not sleep on Kobe or LeBron. MJ won his 6th title at 35. Kobe is 31 right now. LeBron is only 25.

 

None will ever be considered number 1 ATG. I can see a strong case for Pac or Floyd breaking top 10 if;

Floyd remains unbeaten and beats; Shane, Pac, a middleweight champ and has possibly 1 defence.

Pac beats Floyd/Shane winner and another worthy opponent.

 

Other sources say Choynskey was closer to 175 if I remember correctly.

either way, it's not the same as Floyd fighting Sturm. It's the same as Welterweight Floyd (weighing 147) losing 5 inches in height and fighting Arthur Abraham, and then blowing him away.

 

No. 18 pounds at cw. is not the same as 18 pounds between ww and lhw.

 

why not?