Mosley, PAC, Floyd to be #1 ATG?

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  1. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    #1 ATG... Floyd? Don't be ****ing stupid.
     
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  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Holyfield was done when Ruiz faced him. So what?
     
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  3. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This makes using Choinsky as much ridiculous in this topic as use Ruiz.

    Both Choinsky's win over green Johnson and Ruiz win over shot Holyfield makes
    weak case (far away from key victory) for ATG status of Willcott and Jones Jr respectively.

    And these are totaly irrelevent to what should PAC or Floyd do to become #1 ATG.
    Sure PAC/Floyd may targed Abraham/Pavlik potential HOFers at higher weight class
    (as respective alternative for Choinsky/Ruiz) but they may find other way to their
    greatness as well .... maybe Paul Williams (10 inches taller guy) may be efficient?
     
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  4. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    i think pacs coming to the end now + hes at the limit as far as acending more weights

    if floyd beats shane , then pac , the a top middle folowed by a top super middle hes got to have a chance , grated the chances of him doing the second two are slim but hes certanly capable

    shanes time has been and gone unfortunatly still an atg but the nuber one spot is miles to far away
     
    hagman1989, Mar 1, 2010
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  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Neither of the mentioned fighters proved themselves as much as Choinsky did. Neither should rank as highly as Choinsky did. And Walcot beat him. Easy.
     
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  6. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes he proved himself to be competitive against the best
    but he was beaten
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    times by lesser fighters which
    hardly makes his lose to smaller but great Wallcott somethings special.

    It makes exactly the fight Wallcott-Choinsky comparable to
    Jones-Ruiz ... smaller, sure ATG fighter beating bigger experienced
    while limited one, somethings which could be expected, right?
     
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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Learn the sport or log off.:-(
     
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  8. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who else beat 6 from top 100 ATG?
     
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  9. Brutalwayz

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    None will be #1, BUT they all will be top 25 in my eyes.
     
    Brutalwayz, Mar 1, 2010
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  10. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Not realistically. Pacquiao has the best shot at making Top 10.
     
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  11. Stinky gloves

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    PIMP C ... so ... who was that?
     
    Stinky gloves, Mar 1, 2010
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  12. Jetmax

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    All are possible #1 ATG. But they still have a lot of considerable quality fights to take and win. Slim chance seeing as they're all old already.
     
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  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    SRR beat something like 10+ HOF'ers, though not sure how many most people class as top 100 ATG. Barney Ross, Henry Armstrong, Jake Lamotta are sure top 100's, Randy Turpin, Carmen Basillo, Rocky Graziano, Kid Gavilan probably are top 100 ATG's too.

    Ali beat Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Patterson, Archie Moore. Going by names alone, those are 5 ATG's.
     
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  14. Stinky gloves

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    So going by names Ali beat 5 ATG, Robinson 3 sure ATG and 4 arguable,
    that would make PAC at least at the level of Ali and Robinson ... right?
    If you add the whole range of weight classes where PAC was at least
    beltholder it may make enough difference to make strong case for his #1 ATG.
     
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  15. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali is a HW, the fact that he is so great and is a HW too adds to the glamour and Im sure thats why he is rated as high as he is. IMO if he was in a division like WW achieving what he has achieved he wouldnt be rated as highly, probably like SRL which is top 10 in most eyes but not top 3 which is his usual placing.

    SRR has that mystique and has foogh around 200 fights, beating like I said 10+ HOF'ers with a lot of them he fought more than once!

    If Pac were to beat Mosley & PBF, I would personally have him in the top 5, most will have him top 10.
     
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