Mosley-Pac will be competitive and here is what the Impact will be:

First let me say this so no one try's to hijack the thread and get off topic. Yes this is NOT the best fight in terms of which fighter deserves the title shot based on past performances.

Berto is the higher ranked welter and should be fighting Pac. Why he isn't I don't know. Perhaps Arum is sticking it to Al Haymon connected fighters.

JMM is considered the best lightweight in the world, and there is historical precedent with respect to the lightweight champ squaring off against the welterweight champ. Why isn't he facing Manny, simple, Arum wants to stick it to GBP. End of story.

(Note: Martinez is NOT listed above because no fighter is responsible for fighting men above the weight class they are campaigning in. You must face the best in your weight class......not the one above you.)

With all of that said, Shane will be more competitive with Manny than the following were:

DLH - Shane will NOT quit on his stool or have his corner stop it.

Cotto - Shane will NOT be knocked down several times in the fight and be in full retreat by the middle to late rounds.

Clottey - Shane will NOT go into a defensive shell of any kind for the entire fight, whether that be by just covering up, or using his legs to disengage from the fight.

Margarito - Shane will NOT take a sustained beating.

Now will Shane be as competitive as JMM was at 126lb or 130lb? No.

Will Shane win the fight? No.

But what you will get is a back and forth entertaining fight, that Manny takes on points by unanimous decision.

What Will Hardcore Boxing Fans Take From This?

***** Disciples - Will immediately state that this proves PBF could defeat Manny. And will now and forever state there is NO need for PBF to fight Manny, because it has been proven that he can beat him based on PBF's performances against JMM & Mosley. They will justify this by saying that the JMM that PBF faced is very similar to the one Pac faced based on his recent success at 135lb, and they will say they faced a younger Mosley coming off of a win over Margarito.

*******s - Will immediately say the competitiveness of the fight shows that all the talk of Manny cherry picking was "***** Disciple" generated hate. They will deflect ***** arguments about PBF doing better against Shane by stating the obvious......"styles make fights", and that Pac received a wide unanimous decision just like PBF did. They will account for Manny being hit due to his willingness to mix it up. They will also counter with the argument that unlike Floyd, Manny has been willing to face all the welterweights no matter their size and or style (i.e. Cotto, Clottey, Margo, and now Shane). And they summarize by stating Manny's willingness to fight all comers has given him a more complete welterweight resume unlike Floyds.

JMM fans.....Mexicans - Will immediately argue that this fight proves Manny is ducking JMM. They will insist that Manny could face JMM at 140lb, and they will create thread after thread rehashing old arguments about how JMM actually won either of their first two bouts or both of them. They will create mythical match up threads between JMM and Mosley at 130lb or 135lb or some catch weight in between. And they will declare JMM the winner of these match ups based off of what they saw in the Mosley-Pacquiao fight.

Berto fans......ok, 5 or 10 posters on this site - Will immediately call for a fight with Mosley (not a fight with Pac or PBF, but with Mosley) because they are positive Berto can whoop the 40yr old Shane. They will also simultaneously defend Berto's decision to fight another jr welterweight as opposed to a top 10 welterweight.

What Will All The Boxing Fanatics Miss?

1. That it is important for boxing to put on important fights like Bradley-Alexander, as well as merely entertaining bouts like Mosley-Pac, or Cotto-Mayorga for example.

2. The irony in the fact that the fight (Mosley-Pac) they have bemoaned from the outset will end up being a fight they enjoyed far more than a fight that has more importance and they were anticipating for a long time (Bradley-Alexander).

3. That you cannot be "totally" sure how any fight will play out or turn out. The only way to know for sure is for the fighters to actually settle it in the ring. Mythical match ups don't and will never prove anything.

4. That they are tearing down the sport (this includes the media) with all of their bitching, bemoaning, and complaining:

a.) Complain fighters don't fight all the top guys in their divsion. Pac is fighting all of the top welterweights.....STILL COMPLAINING!

b.) Complain young undefeated fighters don't square off against each other. Bradley-Alexander do fight.......BUT STILL COMPLAINING!

c.) Complain that it is hard to determine who the best in a division because they all don't fight each other. Showtime creates "Super 6 Tourney" in which all fighters get a chance to face each other, even if they lose a fight..........BUT STILL COMPLAINING!

The following is taking place or has taken place:

All the top welters (except for Floyd and Berto) have been fighting each other.

All the top lightweights for the most part have been fighting each other.

All the top Jr Welters have been fighting each other and continue to fight each other.

All the top Bantamweights are fighting each other.

The best at Jr Middle and Middle have been fighting each other.

All the best at Super Middle are fighting each other.

The best at Light Heavy have been fighting each other.

And outside of Haye and Klits fighting each other the best in the weak ass Heavyweight division have been fighting each other.

We still get a bad decision here and there......but as fans and media we haven't stopped to CELEBRATE anything that is positive taking place in the sport.

We are stuck in a mode of perpetual DOOMSDAY PROPHESYING on the sports downfall, or on its negatives. Why would any non-boxing fan become a fan of this sport when the people who are already fans are so down on the sport? Ask yourself that then you will find your answer as to why UFC is growing in popularity among the young and boxing is fading from memory.

Boxing has been giving us a pretty darn good product and we haven't been talking about it. In fact we have been shitting on it. It will never be perfect folks.


P.S. - Oh and it isn't lost on me that I am complaining about you complaining.....hahahahahahaha!

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That's pretty simple. Pac will use lateral movement to not let Shane get set, he will jump in with lead lefts to the body as he and Roach will want to wear Shane down for the late Round TKO or KO. If Shane does wear down then Pac will put a sustained attack on him and will overwhelm him and the Ref will stop the fight with Shane standing but unable to go on.

Shane on the other hand will attempt to take short steps back to maximize his range and to force Pac to reach. Shane will have looked at the Morales-Pac fight and will know that "Right Hands" to the body when pac jumps in are very affective. Shane will look to tie up Pac up right after he punches and when pac jumps in as to limit Pacs output. Shane will try to walk Pac back to ropes and crowd him not giving him room to punch. Shane will look to land left hooks on pac on the inside when pac is throwing multiple shots.

But what will happen. Pac and Roach will realize Shane is pretty game and that Pac can be hurt if he stands too long in front of Shane. Shane will realize that if he doesn't tie Pac up use his legs a bit he can be overwhelmed by Pac. The result is Pac will not be there enough to for Shane to damage him enough to KO him nor will he be able to win on points. Pac will not be able to stop Shane but he can clearly outpoint Shane but he will never be able to truly back Shane up or break his will.

But the point of this thread was not how the fight will go but the impact of it being competitive, and how everyone will react and what they will truly miss because of their blind allegiances to one fighter or another.

 

A prime version of Shane stops Manny in 8 rounds it wouldn't be close. But we cannot truly settle this because prime Shane was gone by 2002. It is now 2011.

In prime Shane has:

Faster hand speed.

Harder puncher.

Just as fast foot speed.

Bigger guy.

His fundamentals and technique were spot on.

Longer reach and height.

He actually used his jab and he threw in combination.

If pac can't really hurt or overwhelm this old Shane......why do you believe he would have better success with a young prime Shane?

Understand I am stating before the fight, with the skills shane possesses currently he can keep from getting stoped, or overwhelmed, and be somewhat competitive.

 

Okay I have one person who CANNOT see how it will be competitive......do I have any others. Again we aren't talking JMM competitive at 126lb or 130lb. Just more competitive than DLH, Cotto, Clottey, and Margo.

I will keep a running tabulation of those who are absolutely positive below:

Emeritus
port64 jr
Techniques (I am assuming this per your response....hehehehe)
Slugger3000
Gander Tasco
tech ks
Nonito Smoak
Caliboxing
Atlanta
Duck Dodgers