Mosley, Roy Jones, and performance enhancing drugs.

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  1. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    most of you are much more clued up about these 2 fighters than i am so will you try your best to answer me the following questions as honestly as you can to educate me on the subject?


    1 - have both these fighters been found guilty of taking banned substances?

    2 - if so, when were they found guilty (between which fights in their career)?

    3 - if so, has this cheating tainted your opinion of them?

    4 - do you think that boxing fans tend to sweep their cheating under the carpet and then judge them as though nothing happenned?
     
  2. Imperial1

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    1 - have both these fighters been found guilty of taking banned substances?

    Jones was found guilty of taking a banned substance wich was ripped fuel

    Mosley was never found guilty but admitted to taking PHD 's

    2 - if so, when were they found guilty (between which fights in their career)?

    Jones was found guilty as well as his opponent Eric Harding and this was after their fight I beleive it was in 02

    3 - if so, has this cheating tainted your opinion of them?

    No because with Jones it was something take over the counter plus all the PHD's in the world will never help u fight like Roy or Mosley for that matter

    4 - do you think that boxing fans tend to sweep their cheating under the carpet and then judge them as though nothing happenned?[/quote]

    Depends who u ask ..Like I said before im of the beleif that PHD's in a boxing ring can't protect your chin !
     
  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    It wasnt Eric Harding it was Richard Hall.
     
  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1 - have both these fighters been found guilty of taking banned substances?

    Mosley told a Grand Jury he injected himself with EPO. Roy Jones tested postive for Androstenedione which was something that can actually be bought over the counter ay your local GNC back then.

    2 - if so, when were they found guilty (between which fights in their career)?

    Mosley for the secound fight with Oscar De La Hoya. Jones for the Richard Hall fight in which Hall also tested postive for the same thing.

    3 - if so, has this cheating tainted your opinion of them?

    Very little I think they used poor judgement in taking illegal drugs and should have to a pay a price to some degree as fare as the fans doubt with them. I thought Mosley looked horrible in the DLH rematch and Jones claimed his usage was for a leg injury and I dont believe he would used it for performence enchanching agianst a guy like Hall.

    4 - do you think that boxing fans tend to sweep their cheating under the carpet and then judge them as though nothing happenned?

    Some do and some dont. They are actually both my favorite fighters. Like I said im disapointed in both and it does bother me but I wont turn my back on either guy for one mistake.
     
  5. Imperial1

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    My bad you right ..Just checked ..Do you know if he also tested positive for the same thing ?
     
  6. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    both tested positive for the banned substance androstenedione .
     
  7. HEADBANGER

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    do you think that theres a strong chance that jones and mosley took these performance enhancing drugs throughout their career and that it has given them an advantage over clean opponents who they fought?
     
  8. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The substance they found in Roy's system was apparently from the supplement Ripped Fuel from what I have read. Richard Hall also had 10 times as much in his system than Jones during the fight. Mosley had taken some stuff from Balco, which included EPO and maybe the cream and THG.
     
  9. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No im not one of these guys that accuses fellas of doing stuff without proof. There has been zero proof of Mosley and Jones doing anything outside the fights mentioned.
     
  10. Emeritus

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    Most of your questions have been answered already so I'll just answer the last two, most people on here will say that the drug taking doesn't really affect their opinion of a boxer, thats because most people can't be impartial and put their idols above the sport as a whole

    For me it does, drugs don't make you fight great but they do give you an advantage, I'm a HUGE Shane fan, dude is a great boxer but for me he was a cheat and he knew it!

    Doesn't stop me liking him, hell I loved Ben Johnson (canadian 100m sprinter) but you have to accept that cheating is cheating and put them in that category!

    BTW I was unsure if RJJ was intentional as I think what he tested positve for was over the counter medicine
     
  11. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    fair enough pal, we'll never know for certain anyway. if you had to guess though, do you think that its very likely that jones and mosley used illegal drugs for a large amount of their career?

    is it kind of like saying margarito only used loaded gloves the once just because he has only been caught once. personally i think margarito used loaded gloves a number of times but that is just my opinion. it would also be my opinion that jones and shanes used illegal drugs more than once.
     
  12. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No I dont Jones tested for something that could be found in a urine test and he never failed one agian. Mosley was only linked to BALCO which was really only going on in 2003. IMO its like this Jones said he had a leg injury and needed to recover so he took something over the counter at GNC and thats that. Mosley was at a rough point in his career and needed something extra in his opinion and he made a big mistake but learned from it.
     
  13. Emeritus

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    What? :patsch

    sensible reasons please!
     
  14. zarman

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    i think they should be inducted to the hall of shame not the hall of fame. thats the problem, people let them get away with it. thats why it will always be around.
     
  15. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ruined one of my favorite fights