Mosley vs Cotto

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  1. Relentless

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    nobody is making cotto out to be anything, he is showing us,

    in the judah fight people were saying judah is a better finisher than chop chop and torres and he has the power to ko cotto, in this fight people are saying shane is a better finisher than judah,

    cotto always rises to the occasion.
     
  2. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I second all of that but even though Shane is still a great athlete at 36 ( just a number I truly believe so), I really can't see him evading and dodging punches all the time and specially in close cause simply at that distance, he won't be able to notice Cotto setting up short, fast punches ( Quintana couldn't and said afterwards that Miguel is quite fast putting punches together) - so if Shane can't sense what Miguel is willing to let go on him, he won't be able to avoid it, has to take it! That is precisely the opposite problem to Winky's and Forrest's, he doesn't have to get in long armed, taller guys with fast one-twos but keep someone stockier and stronger ( than Winky or Vernon) off him ... Now, when they are at that punching range and Mosley protects his chin with the high right guard sensefully, can he take a blast downstairs ( look at the RING MAG cover pic, Cotto vs Judah Edition, to notice the leverage Cotto puts behind body shots)? That is the 24 thousand dollar question here... Plus, if Shane misses with a glancing overhand right at close quarters, he runs directly into Cotto's right hook to the body and there, he surely won't have time to react. There are equivocal questions and reason for doubt here - not definitely taking parts here.
     
  3. Caper

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    Interesting :think

    I can picture Shane using his quickness to avoid plenty of inside fighting but this will take away plenty of mustard on his attack not preventing the pressure fighter to utilize another game plan. This will force Shane to fight more in the pocket which I think will be at a disadvantage to him. Shane has a tendency to become a very animated puncher thus taking away the element of surprise and one of his glaring advantages over Cotto which is speed. If Cotto can eat Shanes punches long enough he will most likely break Shane down, slowly but surely.
     
  4. Danny Ocean

    Danny Ocean My nAmE IS MoNeY Full Member

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    im starting to see a mosley stoppage

    i think he will paw that jab out as a range finder to throw some vicious hooks while staying out of distance

    i think a left hook shakes cotto early and sugar shane gets confidence from it and procedes to slowly dishearten cotto until around the 10th he stops him with a flurry of hooks
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Planna Caper, Shane can go fast enough or far enough, that is not the issue, both know the score inside out and age is not the helluva difference to their figure - Miguel will swing himself into action and Shane must swing himself off or else it's a matter of whose legs buckle first - that is pure dynamic collision physics. I wouldn't leap to the conclusion that Shane gonna call it quits cause if he keeps Miguel's punch stats in single features ( like against Collazo), he'll have an easy, flat road to follow up and Miguel one steep incline and may run wrecklessly into a big counter, but having said that, Shane has a very hard task to start out on good foot! There is a whole lot to this and that's why it makes it so interesting... Not like a wild goose chase like other fights may turn out to be this fall!
     
  6. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    agreed, cotto will get stopped before he has a chance to wear-down mosley
     
  7. Caper

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    Yes a confident Shane is much more likely to succeed in a fight of this magnitude. If he starts off strong and stay's poised for the on slaught he has a great chance of winning and stopping the Cotto express. I don't see Cotto wasting too much time before getting the action into an initmate realm, so much for Collazo like inactivity.
     
  8. Caper

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    In contrast to that if Mosley allows Cotto to dictate the action he will be TKO in the championship rounds.
     
  9. Caper

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    I disagree, pawing with the jab will only allow Cotto to slowy manuver his way inside near Mosley's body. If anything Mosley needs to throw a strong snapping jab discouraging Cotto (I'm not sure if he can be discouraged)

    Stopping Cotto will be something that will happen in more of a sudden event....I have never seen Cotto disheartened even when taking a beating so I don't think it will happen against an on coming warrior such as Mosley who will invite a brawl.
     
  10. Drew101

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    I'm picking Cotto to win, after much consideration.

    We've already seen that Cotto has what it takes to nullify an opponent's speed adavantage, and, while SSM is a much more well-rounded fighter than Judah, he's still got a tendency to throw wide shots from time to time; this means that, if Cotto fights smart, he'll have the opportunity to counter Shane as he steps in.

    Also, much has been made about the fact that Cotto isn't as good of a boxer as Mosley. While that may be true, he's still good enough to work his way into punching range (especially if Mosley paws with that jab), if he has to, or to draw SSM in close after making him miss (SSM isn't going to be able to catch him with everything, after all).

    SSM's a great fighter, but, at some point, he's going to elect to trade, or, more likely, will be made to trade. Cotto's still got the edge in terms of power,and, right now, I think he's got the edge in terms of strength. When you combine that with the cool that he displays, I think that means he'll be able to come on late, and either score a late stoppage, or, secure a close decision.
     
  11. Mind Reader

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    Can't wait for this fight, its gonna be great! Gotto go with Mosley, I hope he can take this.:happy
     
  12. Rakim

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    I'm looking forward to this one. I'm really favouring Mosley at the moment, I think he'll be too quick for Cotto. Mosley TKO 10. Of course, my prediction will change, depending on who looks angriest at the weigh-in.
     
  13. dave82

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    Ohh come on, you know Mosley is always smiling :thumbsup
     
  14. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well let me say i think cotto is the truth but at the same time he will not beat shane mosley.shane is a dynamic fighter with speed and power and ring smarts and he has a good chin.i think the fight will be a great fight to watch but i also think that shane will stop him mid late rounds.

    the winner should fight the winner of pbf vs hatton i think.