Mosley vs Floyd, Prime for prime

Oscar has never had great movement always been a one handed fighter has always tired down the stretch and has always had problem with speed.

 

I'm talking about the scorecards. It went to a split decision. Whether you disagree with that or not isn't the point. Judges usually always see it differently, and they're usually going to score the fight for the guy who threw way more punches whether they all connected or not. That's why I say Floyd will loose the fight due to inactivity alone, especially against a prime Oscar who lets his hands go way more often, and has way faster hands.

That's Floyd's biggest flaw at welter is that he just doesn't let his hands go enough. A true great defensive fighter like Whitaker knew how to hurt his opponents, and break his opponents down. Floyd just potshots and runs like an old Roy Jones, and that won't win him fights against true ATG's.

 

I could do the same with Oscar. The difference is we know who Oscar lost to we know PBF owns his ass between the ropes and we know PBF is undefeated.:deal

 

PBF is undefeated and he's fought no body at welterweight . He hasn't done jack **** at welter to be given any reason to beat any true ATG welterweights, period.

 

Post of the day:good

 

You saying the weight is just an excuse yet hatton was 7 pounds above his best weight but people use that as an excuse and yet you also offer up excuses for oscar losing because he tired
"if oscar didnt tire he would have won"
well guess what if my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle oscar always tires and loses control late its what he does its not like its something new pbf knew he would and his gameplan was made accordingly. Hence you could roger between every round tellign him they'd get him down the stretch

 

PBF's best weight isn't WW. He's arguably the GOAT at 130. The mere fact that he was linear at WW is just icing on the ****ing cake.

 

I never made any excuses for the Hatton loss. I don't think the weight affected him at all actually. He just wasn't good enough to ever beat Floyd.

But then of course Manny Pacquiao knocked his ass out in 2 rounds at his best weight so.. I guess that doesn't do a lot for Floyd's victory.

The Oscar excuses are perfectly valid. He was way old and past it when Floyd fought him, was he not? If we're talking prime for prime, it's a completely different fight.

 

Exactly people always find a way to discredit PBF to suit their agenda.
"If Oscar didn't stop throwing his jab"
"If Oscar didn't get tired"
"If Oscar was prime"
The fact is PBF beat Oscar at a weight he had no business at on Oscar's terms and people still can give the man on ounce of credit.

 

When assholes and haters believed that bull**** scoringatsch

 

He wasn't way old he never was in any wars like JCC and didn't take a lot of punishment he was really a young 33 or 34 when they fought. Why aren't you saying PBF is old now then since he's 33, he's obviously past his prime.:roll:

 

You think Mayweather is in his prime now?

It's hard to tell when Mayweather's prime is, or if he is in his prime now. His best performances where at 130, he looked unstoppable at that weight. I think Mayweather beats Mosley at any time, and any weight. Not just because I am more of a Mayweather fan, but I think Mayweather's style would cause Mosley problems at any point in time.

 

Actually it was his 5th weight class. It'd be like saying "oh Oscar only went up 1 weight class when he fought Hopkins"

Sillyness.

He looked very good and very fast because he's superior to Oscar and always was. He however was flat footed and not nearly as active as at 147. At 154 he most fought in straight lines trying to get Oscar to walk into counters. At 147 he'd be more on his toes and initiating alot of the contact.

"If DLH didnt tire out"

A weakness he's always had. If my aunt was a man she'd be my uncle type logic.

A weakness that plays perfectly into Floyds hands. A fighter like Oscar who gets weaker as the fight goes on would never beat Floyd who gets stronger as the fight goes on.

Not really. Oscar landed 40 jabs out of 246.

Mayweather on the other hand landed 69 out of 240.

So it seems Oscar had alot more difficulty with Floyds jab then Floyd had with his.

And yet Oscar got outboxed by 2 inferior fighters to Mayweather. A past prime Whitaker and a good but never elite Quartey.

[qute]Floyd for being elite sure hasn't fought a lot of them.[/quote]
The elite fighters he's fought, DLH, Corrales and Castillo he beat. Compared to DLH who lost to every elite fighter he faced.

Oscar was basically the same age Mayweather is now. Oscar as a junior middleweight couldnt beat Mayweather when he outweighed him by 10lbs. Yet he's going to beat Mayweather who he has no advantages over at 147? Is he faster then Mayweather? No. Better footwork? No. Better defense? No.

So how exactly is Oscar going to beat Floyd?

 

I'll give him credit, but not much more then I'd give Manny for beating Oscar. I'm just not going to ever claim he beats a prime Oscar because there's absolutely no reason to believe that. He hasn't proven anything at welterweight, and stylistically Oscar is trouble for him.

We'll have to agree to disagree though.

 

His best performance are @130 and he peaked against Gatti, so a case can be made his prime was between 2001-2005.