Mosley vs Tszyu at 140

I have a question.How many people have seen either or both fighters LIVE?

 

The anti-Tszyu posters on this thread harp on about Tszyu's KO loss to Phillips, at the same time they choose not to mention Mosley's shut out losses to Forrest and Wright the first time he fought them :-(

Many are also aware of (but choose to ignore) the circumstances surrounding Tsyu's loss to Phillips (court appearances during the day to contest a $7million AUD lawsuit against his former manager/promotor Bill Mordey) and the fact that he only used to eat once a day during his preparation for fights back then.

Tszyu himself has said his loss to Phillips was the best thing to happen to him - that it forced him to reassess his regime and consult dieticians etc. to improve his diet and training methods. Considering he came back and went on to unify 140 after that loss, I'd say he's right :yep

But of course the anti-Tszyu posters will disagree - they will instead ask "Why didn't Tszyu ever avenge the loss by rematching Phillips?" and "The court case and diet are just excuses" and "He quit on his stool against Hatton" etc.

Maybe they can answer why SSM lost to Forrest and Wright twice each? Oh, I know, the calibre of these 2 opponents will be brought up and compared to Phillips, but isn't that just another version of making an excuse?

I respect both SSM and Tszyu, and I have a had time coming up with a winner between them.

All I'll say is that SSM's speed and agility wouldn't trouble Tszyu as much as some people try to make out - slick southpaws were Tszyu's bread and butter - why would a slick orthodox fighter suddenly present difficulties for Tszyu?

Also - look at Tszyu's 2 losses - one vs Phillips, who had a good chin, and who Tszyu chose to go toe to toe with for 10rds, and one vs Hatton - a swarming pressure fighter who leant on Tszyu all fight.

Now all of a sudden a slick orthodox fighter is going to KO him? :-(

Anyway, I won't make a decision on who wins, suffice to say, it would be a good fight, with potentially a points win to SSM, or a late round KO/TKO win to Tszyu.

 

Requiem4Swtscie's cousin would win.

 

His girlfriend would KTFO out of both of them however on the same night, and eat 5 meat pies and drink a carton of beer before entering the ring to make it more interesting.

 

i will leave the Sugar Shane fans with this tought. Shane struggled both times with Forest and lost to him here is a sample of what Kostya Tszyu did to Forest now picture the Tszyu vs Mosley fight.

it will be alot closer than everyone thinks.
im just wondering why Mosley skipped the whole division while Tszyu was champion maybe this is the reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEV9dyIYwI4

 

You'll never be able to drill it into an Americans head that an ATG Tszyu might possible beat American hero Sugar Shane.

 

You can't quote amateur footage and expect it to have any weight. Fighters can change leaps and bounds in the time they spend as a pro.

Shane was a top amateur also, not just KT.

 

Nobody ever beat Tszyu like Shane has been beaten.

 

what amatuer boxing does is shows them boxing skills. i know both fighters both Tszyu and Forest improved after that fight and of course they would.

im just showing you that to be a amatuer champion that only lost 10 time in 270 fights it means you can do something the Americans thought Tszyu never could do and that is box.

they always said Tszyu is slow not a boxer well that footage right there shows the exact oppisite. Tszyu can box the skillful quick slick types.

MSTR your just saying that because you have a hint of Yank in you. There can be better boxers with more talent outside the just the USA and in ten years you will see that. **** its already happening now.

Its funny how you think sometimes why because you happen to believe that only american fighters have skills but there can be mismatch's in styles all the time and i do believe the people that say Tszyu was Overated are the same people that think he wasnt avioded by the big american guys like Mosley jumped a whole division not to fight Tszyu.

Every man can be beaten is what im trying to say and Tszyu only loses to Phsyical types and has never lost once to a boxer.

hell your man Roy Jones got KO'd by a guy that isnt that skilful in Tarver it was his style. every man has a weak point like Mosley against Forest or Dela Hoya against Mosley.

 

First up. Don't ever try to bring the Tarver knockout against Roy. The man was weight drained and 35 years old FFS. His style definitely didn't carry well in the later years.

It would be like me saying Kelvin Grove is better then Jeff Fenech because he knocked him out when he was well past it. Bull****.

Secondly I am full blooded Australian mate. And my favourite fighter is Peurto Rican you should know that. My second favourite fight Diaz is Mexican-American. I don't favor US fighters. I favour GOOD fighters. KT is one of my favourites of all time so don't say I am bagging him when I am not. I pointed out he is a good boxer.

I am pointing out to you though that Shane was an excellent amateur also, I don't know his exact record, but I know he was a very good one.

Styles make fights to a point, but KT never fought an orthadox fighter as quick as a prime Sugar Shane. Shane was a prolific combination puncher and thats what it would become a battle of.

Personally I think KT could back Shane up off his one two and give him a lot of problems much like Vernon and WInky both did.

Still, my point was that the amateur footage doesn't mean anything in terms of showing he could beat Shane. KT's style changed a lot moving into the pros, and he started to sit down on his punches more, he gained power but lost some of his movement and speed. He adapted his style to the pro game like all fighters do. Vernon most certainly did the same.

 

Good point. The thing that makes me think that KT could win it, is that he predominately fought off his jab cross, which are the two punches that both WInky and Forrest used to great effect to beat shane. Shane can get lazy with the jab, and had trouble when getting backed up by the top guys who dominated off their jab.

However you can never rule out the speed and angles of Shane. What makes him different to every boxer KT fought is his superior combination punching. KT has never fought a combination puncher like Shane, which is what makes it tough to call.

This would be a very very close fight IMO.

 

Mosley's chin would win this fight for him. He'd take some serious shots from Zoo and would give some as well, but Mosley just has an insane chin. Zoo would be the first to go down.

KO10

 

Thank you... i cbf typing all that out myself for the poor guy to read...

 

wooo a bit touchy on the JOnes - Tarver subject hey. ive found your weak spot.


hahahaha i still think Mosley has a better chance of beating Tszyu than Mayweather why because he is bigger and stronger. Mayweather's style is made for Tszyu.

i was just saying that by me putting the amatuer link on there was showing them he can box and is quicker than people think.

MSTR no need to get arked up over the Jones statement.

 

Its all good:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:... I wasn't even angry about the Tarver statement

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The amateur clip is very good to highlight his boxing ability. So many people fail to remember that KT was a very effective counter puncher, and timed his power punches to perfection.

I agree with you in that I think a lot of the people who have posted on this thread never really saw prime KT, and are basing there opinion of the small amount of footage they have seen of him.