Most Accurate HW Jabbers

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Muchmoore, Nov 29, 2009.


  1. KTFO

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    Liston was a slugger. Holyfield tended to slug it out at times. Ali's jab was slapping, keeping opponents at bay.
    Holmes jab was snapping with some impact. Maybe the most accomplished, effective one.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    You know, I want to say Wladimir but so few of his opponents seem game, it's hard to say if he's just so masterful with his jab that he makes it look like they're sitting ducks or if these guys just aren't even trying to use head movement, therefore not testing his accuracy to begin with. With guys like Ali, he faced Joe Frazier three times-with all that head movement Frazier had. Then you have guys like Chagaev and Ibragimov...Difficult to gauge Wlad's ability but it seems fantastic.
     
  3. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Holmes was the sharpest jabber
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Holmes for accuracy. Wladimir and Liston the most powerful. Something interesting about Wladimir is that he can dominate on a jab alone for the most part. However I give Douglas alot of credit for keeping a prime undefeated Tyson off of him. Lennox was great at setting up his uppercuts with his jab. Ali's was extremely fast and very effective. But where is Joe Louis the father of the 1-2. Holyfield at times used the jab well I would say he was a hook uppercut kind of fighter.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    These are definitely the top. I chose Holmes. However, there is a case for Ali and Wlad. We are talking about the elite of the elite.
     
  6. Mendoza

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    Either Holmes or Wlad.
     
  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali and Holmes are the jabbing masters............. Ali's faster; Holmes' more potent............

    Buster Douglas owned a great jab, but was too lazy on a regular basis to get the top slot........

    MR.BILL:bbb
     
  8. Muchmoore

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    :lol: You can make a lot of jokes out of that sentence....
     
  9. Muchmoore

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    WOW, me and McGrain are the ONLY ones that think Liston?

    Really?!?!

    And was Holmes jab that accurate? I think he may be the best overall jabber in history, but it's not like everytime he threw it, it landed. He threw a gazillion of them, Holmes was more reliant on the jab than any other ATG was on any punch.
    Wlad lands a higher percentage than Holmes, but competition must be taken into account too I suppose.
     
  10. Blood Green

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    Stiff and pumping, might I add.
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Isn't it possibly harder to be fast and accurate with a jab? That's exactly what Ali did - should we possibly give more credence because of this? Ponderous jabs, although snapping and maybe deceivingly quick don't have to travel as fast so they probably are easier to execute more accurately. Don't you have to subtract speed for accuracy? At the same time, the opponent has a chance to react to a slower jab giving the illusion of less accuracy. It's difficult to determine.

    I like as top guys.

    Holmes, Ali, Liston, Wlad, Douglas...

    No, I figured out who I'm voting for. Joe Louis. I think he's the most accurate HW puncher of all time, and I have no problem giving him that honor with the jab.

    Tyson deserves a nomination.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

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    You know, Pete. Even though I intensely disagree with you sometimes, I have to admit, I misjudged you too. You make some good points and clearly have a solid analytical thought process. I wonder how long it will take me to regret saying that.
     
  13. EleventhHour

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    I know Holmes is probably the right answer but Liston's jab was a thing of vicious beauty. Absolutely in my top favorite punches ever, along with Tommy Hearns' right straight and Tyson's uppercut.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

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    Of the runners-up, Wlad's case is probably strongest. Sonny right behind him.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Holmes' reliance on the jab is overstated, IMO. His arsenal was pretty deep...his straight right is actually a very underrated weapon, if you want to talk about accuracy and technique. At times he dispensed with the jab altogether and still dominated.

    As for the jab, he could touch you with it if and when he wanted to. Even if his career thrown/connected stats came up short against other heavyweights, in the moments where it mattered, against the best men he faced, the thing could hardly miss.