Most Beautiful Boxer to watch ever?

He has a point.

 

...or perhaps I always had a hard time solving the southpaw style myself... so I'm holding a grudge.

 

that was an ugly fight. i had whitaker winning on rounds, not by much, and he certainly won the rounds he took by more than JCC did. But I would hardly call that a great display.

competency versus a great, though, is still great.

 

He just said we should gather all southpaws and throw them over a cliff. Either you're as drunk as I am or you didn't actually read anything he wrote.

 

There are counterarguments to what you say, but I'm not going to go down that path and make a debate of it. All I'll say is fair enough if you believe that. I haven't come to terms with what I believe on many ethical/meaning-of-life issues, despite devoting much time to it in study, and so I'll be silent on this issue.

Pea was an arrogant ****. No doubt about it. But when it comes to casualness and nonchalance, you won't find a more casual and nonchalant customer than Pernell Whitaker. I think Pea's whole raison d'etre was to show how he could make a fool of fighters without trying. And no one did it better. His self confidence was incredible, no matter who was in front of him. Few fighters left an encounter with Whitaker being physically hurt, but by the same token, few left such an encounter without being totally humiliated.


Personally, I found his antics comedic, but I can also see how they would be annoying, especially if you did not buy into his persona to begin with.

Southpaw's are pretty hard to catch, it might be hard to round them all up. Good luck with your endeavor .

 

Hello, thank you for the welcome. Yes i do have many stories to tell. When I was 15 instead of school I would wait for Stillmans gym to open. I would hang out there untill it was time to go home. Lou Stillman who new I should be in school but didn't want me walk the streets lets me in for nothing. I got the job of taking in the money from the paying customers. I think it was 25 or 50 cents. I got to know many great fighters. My favorite guy was Tony Janiero. The guy Lamotta destroyed. I was heartbroken from the beating he took. Jake Lamotta was unbelieveable. By far the toughest most durable fighter I ever saw.
But getting back to Raul Macias. Unless a fighter could hit like a mule he stood very little chance against Macias. Usually he threw very few punches in the beginning, just figuring out his opponent style and strategy. From there on it was all Macias. Not a heavy puncher 22 ko's in 41 wins but beautiful to watch. He was like the new teacher who comes to a class your having problems with and suddenly makes everything clear to you. He made you understand the sweet science. When I watched him it was like we were thinking the same thing.
As far as the other great bantemweights I really feel Macias would of beaten Fighing Harada and Elder Jofre as to me he would of figured them out by the third round. Ruben Olivares and Carlos Zarate would of been great fights only because of their power. When your fighing someone with a 80 & 90 percent ko record you have to be extremely careful. Remember they also would know Macias style. But all this is just my opinion. Don't know how many out there remember the days when there was one true champion in each division but that was really beautiful.

 

Don't mind me. I live on the east coast -and the views expressed here are not endorsed in the People's Republic of Massachusetts believe me. I simply enjoy throwing shots at the dominant ideology.

Sure, although Pernell's "nonchalance" was feigned. He was very much into impressing himself first and foremost and the crowd. Pep demonstrated skill as a matter of course and to get out of the way. He demeaned himself (for running away to live to fight another day) more than his opponent. He didn't gloat about it -and that struck me as more honestly casual and nonchalant. When it comes to skill and flair, I don't necessarily put one over the other.

My friend Sweet Pea seems to be offended. It's merely an age-old running joke in fight clubs and gyms over here.

 

Thanks for sharing :good

I'll endeavour to get hold of some footage of him. As you can tell by my moniker, I'm certainly a fan of the sweet science.

 

No peak PBF ?

 

Buchanan! He does deserve a mention. Leonard was also beautiful to watch and I love the way he threw shots -just smooth mechanics and rythym to spare. The Hagler fight was artistry of motion.

 

When you say 'most beautiful', Benny Leonard and Jose Napoles quickly link-up. Every time you watch them fight they show you things a trainer could never teach; both flawlessly creative and measured.

To a slightly lesser extent, Tony Canzoneri, whose effective see-saw movement, and encouraging low hands suckered his man into that range finding looping left and show-stopping deadly cross.

And then there is James Toney. However his life styled him to the fans distaste, that emotionless face belied his extraordinary focus and vision in the ring. He looked like was bored with boxing, as if it was a game he had completely mastered and taunted it's simplistic dynamic as he rolled and slipped in irresistible uppercuts to his drowning victims.

 

Hi everyone, I´m new to this forum but I hope it´s okay if I jump in and give my favourites as well.
Ali before he was stripped of his title. The fight against Cleveland Williams! Magic.
Sugar Ray Leonard, these two are in my opinion the most classy boxers you can see. I haven´t seen that much of Sugar Ray Robinson but what i´ve heard he was outstanding so perhaps he will be up there as well when I´ve seen more fights with him.
All the best from a rainy Sweden
The Predator

 

Welcome aboard. Check out Pernell Whitaker and Roberto Duran. You may have seen both before, but thought I'd mention them.

Whitaker was a very slick defensive boxer. He was at his most effective on the outside, but could fight superbly within range and inside. Very quick hands, and a lovely jab out the southpaw stance. Fluid and beautiful on the eye.