Most chance of beating a Klit: Povetkin, Haye or Chambers?

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Haye or Chambers ( voted haye )


Povetkin seemsd to have all the tools but I think he is lacking in the heart dept a little bit

I was impressed with Chambers last time out , although Dimitrenko is no Wladimir.

I will always believe ( until proven wrong ) that Haye is a style wise bad for Wlad , yes Wlad could knock him out , no question , but he doesn't like to be pushed back , Haye knows this and would surely be what he tried to do.

My worry for Chambes is he would and try skill it and outbox Wlad , which would not be easy for , for all his flaws , Wlad is big , relatively fast , accurate and well schooled so the last thing you want to do is let him settle in to the fight.

Chambers has ability and has a chance but ( IMO ) only if he gets a little bit out of character and goes for him straight off. If he lets Wlad settle in to the task , he'll very likely lose.

 

Solis if lose some weight

Chambers no chance , Haye to weak chin but has good speed and power, Povetkin has good style for brothers .

 

I dont even know why i'm getting into this but it seems I am

OK Valuev had one chance of victory that is if Haye stood in front of him and let Valuev use his size and strength to wear him down. Surely that cannot be up for question ?

So If you are fighting a guy who can only beat you one way , surely any fighter with a brain would think " ok ,I'm going to take your one way of beating me " which in this case was to move !

Indeed Haye said he was gonna stand and fight and did the opposite but again surely a fighter with sense would try and lead his opponenet away from what he is going to do , no ?

Ali told George Foreman he was gonna dance all night , check out a fight called the Rumble in the Jungle to see what actually happened

 

good post

as to haye hes not in the same league as top heavies such as the klitschkos, hes never been hit by anyone remotely as athletic and powerful for starters. Thing is in the history of boxing lots of ex cruisers have stepped up to heavy and have enjoyed their share of success see Byrd, ruiz and to an extent Toney (also gomez), haye might not be a bad fighter not even at heavy but hes been rushed into the limelight and heralded as the big thing to generate money, he d not stand a chance against either KLitschko, hes all talk. if he gets exposed for what i think he has, a very questionable chin his run might come to an abrupt halt. In that case he ll get sent into dreamland even by any mediocre and modestly talented heavy who can bang a bit

 

All three would be underdogs against either brother but I think Haye has the best chance.

Povetkins pressure-style could conceivably trouble the Klits but I'm not sure he has the head movement to get by their jabs. I also can't forget how easily Chambers was able to nail him with counter-rights in the first half of their fight. He's not standing up to those right hands if Wlad or Vitali is throwing them.

Chambers impressed me in his last fight. He's quick and has a good jab and could certainly win a few of the early rounds. I just see him being slowly discouraged by the constant stiff jab in his face, losing heart, and being content to lose a wide points decision.

Haye could obviously be ko'd by either brother if they land anything of substance on him but I really think he's a bad match-up for Wlad in particular. His hand-speed and power can trouble anyone - I think there's a good chance he catches Wlad with something big early.

I always favoured Vitali over Haye heavily but it's possible now could be the perfect time to fight him. Vitali takes a chance by leaning away from punches all the time. It's worked well so far but Haye's speed could catch him by surprise while he's leaning backwards with his hands down. It's hard to imagine Vitali being stopped but it could still be an interesting fight.

 

Careful Henke thats dangerouslty close to logical thinking , dont you realise you are on a Klitschko thread here

 

Haye at least has a Puncher's chance against either of them.

 

That's cute and all, but Valuev is not a big puncher and slow as ****, it doesn't excuse throwing only 140 punches in the entire fight. I would not have minded a smart defensive fight, in fact I would have loved it, but that's not what Haye did. Haye ran, it's plain and simple, and anyone who isn't British can see it for what it is. If Haye needed to run against Valuev, he'll need a bike for the Klitschko's.

 

I believe Haye has the best chance for knockout but Chambers has the best chance at decision. Chambers is easily the best boxer of the three from what I've seen. He gave that Povetkin fight away and it made me sick. I never thought I'd like him, but I have to admit I changed my opinion about him when he decided to give an honest look at his flaws and actually correct them. The weight and the underagressive behaviour. He changed. Not many do that. Too bad he can't hit like Haye. But Haye does have dynamite in the gloves and he's bigger and still fast.

 

you shouldnt have made this a poll thread it was clear you d get all the brit teens anonymously voting for haye then

 

If Haye runs in the fight (assuming it happens) look for me on here and I will hold my hands up.

Rest assured if he doesn't I'll be looking for you!:bbb

 

Why thank you

I didn't say Valuev was a big puncher I said his only hope was to use his strength to wear him down ( i.e leaning on him , push him around that kind of thing ) so for Haye to avoid that he couldn't stay in one place so if you cant stay in one place you have to move around. Maybe he could have thrown more but that would have given Valuev a chance to grab on and thats the one thing haye couldn't afford.

Its boxing 101 next to keep your hands up , move your head , DONT FIGHT THE OTHER GUYS FIGHT !

As for Wlad I would be pretty sure Haye knows that would be the absolute wrong tactic if he moved around too much. If he did that all he would be doing is playing into Wlads hands , Wlad wants to be the one attacking, its where he is at his strongest , again DONT FIGHT THE OTHER GUYS FIGHT !

Yes Haye has vulrenabilites , but so does any other fighter.

You want to say that Haye keeping out of Valuevs way shows he's crap but Wlad getting levelled by 3 guys who are honestly not on his level means nothing ??

Wlad V haye: Wlad is the favourite no question but if Haye was to go at Wlad ( the thing Wlad doesn't want ) I give him a decent chance of victory

You may have heard how styles make fights ?

 

How does any of that excuse throwing only 12 punches a round? :huh

 

Im not saying excuses so much ( beleive me I would have loved a better fight too ! ) as he knew was doing enough to win so why take the chance of stayng in one spot a second too long and letting Valuev wrap those big sasquatch arms around him ?

I agree , it was a crap fight , but if Haye had decided to stand and trade a bit , and he had got worn down and knackered out , where did his career go from there ? lose to Wlad and he can come again , lose to Valuev and no-one would ever take him seriously again.

Im a big haye fan ( clearly ) but I dont agree with everything he says or does but lo and behold he's got a belt and is in a pretty good position so maybe he knows what he's doing !