most credible boxing organisation.

Smutt, Bolton mentioned he was new to boxing so i gave him a run down of my thoughts so Whilst the Fighter makes the belt has been done. If you are new to the game maybe he didn't know that. I was refering to the WBF belt with the " Which I doubt they would fight for" sorry for the confusion. This were my rantings in a boxing forum I wsn't too concerned about doing my resaearch just what i thought off the top of my head The If and Were in relation to the IBO is wrong as you have pointed out so for that i apologise

 

no need to apologis to me Ced mate, I am just joining in the debate! Personally the way I see it, is most people get a little mixed up as to what is credible or legitimate. Some of the **** pulled by the top-4 over times is anything but credible: The WBA continue to plummet day by day. The IBF with all their rorts, scams and internal coups as well as a president serving timr are right there along with them. WBC? Love those silver and diamond belts and the WBO is run by an absolute shonk of a man. The Ring Belt is a marketing tool and not much else. I don't give a **** what my mate Ippy thinks either - having a promoter own what many deem to be a sanctioning body is a conflict of interest any day of the week. Thinking anything else is a fairytale. Mate many name fighters recently have dumped "big 4" belts but held onto IBO ones, Jones V Trinidad did massive numbers, was PPV and was for an IBA or IBC belt. Fighter makes the belt; that simple IMO and on that I agree with you and always have done.

 

Joe ditched the IBF to fight Manfredo didnt he?

 

Your first point I'd disagree with strongly. It's at least a fair indication of who is the legimate world champion. You won't see them hand out their belt for the sake of doing it, unlike any alphabet soup organisation. They don't need sanctioning fees (case in point - Mosley v Margarito was not given "sanctioning" as Cotto was ranked ahead of Sugar).

That may well be, but the Ring Ratings committee is made up by a vast majority of people who have NOTHING to do with the magazine...

The Ring Rating Panel

Mark Abrams - 15rounds.comCarlos Arias - Orange County Register
Eric Armit - British Boxing Yearbook
Bill Calogero - thedailysports.com
Nick Charles - Showtime
Brian Doogan - London Sunday Times
Coyote Duran - doghouseboxing.com
J. Michael Falgoust - USA Today
Steve Farhood - Showtime
Doug Fischer - ringtv.com
Margaret Goodman, M.D. - secondsout.com
Lee Groves - CompuBox
Jack Hirsch - Boxing News
Michael Hirsley - Chicago Tribune
Keith Idec - Herald News of New Jersey
Carlos Irusta - El Grafico
Ted Lerner - The Ring
Marc Lichtenfeld - Through The Ropes
Jessi Losado - Telemundo
Scott Mallon - asianboxingnews.com
Rich Marotta - FSN-TV, KFI/KLAC Radio
David Mayo - Grand Rapids Press
Barry McGuigan - ITV
Marty Mulcahey - maxboxing.com
Bernard Osuna - Telefutura
Vittorio Parisi - nonsoloboxe.it
Matt Richardson - fightnews.com
Cliff Rold - ***********.com
Michael Rosenthal - ringtv.com
Rick Scharmberg - fightnews.com
Don Steinberg - The Philadelphia Inquirer
Joe Tessitore - ESPN
Paul Upham - Fist/FSN-TV
Claude Vesque - Wikipedia EditorCalvin Watkins - Dallas Morning News
John Whistler - San Antonio Express News
Phil Woolever - Boxing Digest
Kurt Wolfheimer - fightnews.com

The irony of the whole situation is that the belt would be near redundant if the alphabet soups had their **** in order... which they don't.

 

You can put up as many names as you like my friend. A promoter who owns the company is in a conflict of interest it is quite simple!

 

Might well be, but until it affects their ratings and championship policy, I'll stick by them thanks very much.

I think the key line in all of that previous post, was the last one.

 

I swear to God! The next time I get caught speeding I hope it's you that pulls me over - you will believe any old line I come up with!

 

Unless you can prove otherwise, I'll stick with it Do you not think that EVERYONE is waiting for them to rank GBP fighters highly so they can criticise them?

As it stands, the topic of this thread is "the most credible boxing org". While it's not an org as such, I think The Ring has a long way to go to catch the soups in the cloak and daggers department.

 

Well officer, you see this nasty man pushed my foot down on the accelerator, and made me go too fast. Then he ran away before you got to my window....

 

I'd have pistol whipped you by now...

 

POLICE BRUTALITY!!! POLICE BRUTALITY!!

That'll be good for a 20k payout thanks Plod!

 

Not another trial by Channel 9s ACA!

 

Works every time!

 

All Governing bodies have limitations. None more so than those offering 'interim' and other excuses for titles.

The WBA has turned into a leading contender for 'enterprise at its poorest level'. Pity, as it's long history deserves better. A complete disgrace now.

The WBC holds water, as does Phil Austins head.... but I digress.. The corruption involved with the WBC does account for much embarassment to itself.

The IBF leaks like a sythe, although it certainly gained great momentum in a short space of time. Satoshi Shingaki is an early credit to the finest days. BWAH HA HA HA HA

The IBO could do with a more constructive ranking system, but credit to them for not implimenting interim, regular etc bull****. Down the track we'll see the IBO credited far greater than most speak of now. I'd be willing to bet on that.

The WBF's... Oh, ****... I just vomited on myself.

WBO?? Interim dribble... **** them off..

The rest? Who fkn cares?

The cable networks are massively to blame for so many tripe filled title offering, but only fools will try to convince me that any subsidgery of a 'World Title' is worth a mention.

People want to see the BIG fight happen, as they did for 3/4 of the last century... With that comes higher recognition of Belts on offer. Interim belts etc are causing a down turn in the numbers of BIG fights as each holder is defending against easier options. The likelyhood of fighters obtaining these belts via easier options is also ruining chances of better quality bouts occuring.. Just a big ugly circle. Oops, there I go talking of Phil again...