Most dangerous for Joshua : Haye, Wilder or Ortiz ?

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  1. KnightAndDay

    KnightAndDay Active Member Full Member

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    1. Ortiz
    2. Wilder
    3. Haye
     
  2. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    ^^^^
     
  3. RememberingC.S.

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  4. MrTombourineMan

    MrTombourineMan Торрейра хорошо. Full Member

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    Hard to say who out of Ortiz or Haye is his biggest threat. Haye has been at world level for a lot longer than the Cuban, but is still fighting bums, has a suspect chin and froze somewhat the last time he fought a methodical SHW. That being said he's probably the superior boxer of the three and his fast slipping counter punching could very easily be a style match up nightmare for Joshua. This is complete malarkey talk anyway, we all know Hearn won't put Joshua in the ring with either of these two unless A) They bring a proper belt to the table, or B) They look completely shot to sh*t as they get closer and closer to 40.
    As for Wilder, while he is powerful and athletic I simply don't think he has the basics to compete against the other three. He was 5-3 down against Szpilka after 8 FFS. Within 6 rounds he'll make a trademark mistake that will give Joshua a plated opportunity to floor him with a counter right ala Martin.
     
  5. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    David Haye (imho) has everything (one punch power, chin, skills, stamina, mobility) except courage. With the heart of Evander or Vitaly - he would be better then anyone. His size is quite enough (like Ali).
    Wilder and Ortiz are still unproven on the highest level, although Stiverne, Jennings and Thompson are/were top 10 hw; at least top 15. Honestly, Joshua is unproven too, but he has great potential, it is obvious. All these matches would be very unpredictible (50/50 type, one punch could be deciding factor)....And Parker-Takam winner will be in this society very soon...
     
  6. Keldan

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    1. Ortiz
    2. Haye
    3. Wilder

    They can all bang so wouldn't argue with anyone's opinion. Some exiting Heavyweight fights to be made.
     
  7. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It must be Ortiz or Haye. The third one is an easy fight for Joshua.
     
  8. youcrazyboy

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    1. Haye
    2. Ortiz
    3. Wilder
     
  9. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Ortiz
    2. Wilder
    3. Parker
     
  10. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed
     
  11. Brighton bomber

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  12. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Ortiz has the reach and boxing ability to be a real threat to Joshua. He also has a good inside game, which Joshua doesn't have much defense for.

    2. Wilder's boxing skills are crude, but he comes to fight, has a similar reach to Joshua and has a better right hand. Wilder also seems to have a good chin. Stiverne's age and inactivity is catching up with him, but he is still better than anyone Joshua has fought.

    3. Haye has the skill, but has been too inactive. I also think once he gets hit by Joshua he would go into survival mode and just fight to survive rather than win.

    That said all three of these guys would show up to fight unlike Joshua's last opponent who laid down, which wasn't Joshua's fault, but it didn't help at rating Joshua's skill level.
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. Joshua blows that glass jawed fraud Wilder out early.
     
  14. Dan88

    Dan88 Active Member Full Member

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    Ortiz is massively over rated on these boards. 37 and hasn't exactly got a good resume

    Wilder has fought no one.

    Haye
    Wilder
    Ortiz
     
  15. Cel21

    Cel21 New Member Full Member

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    Haye - Although he's been out for a while. He has what Joshua hasn't dealt with yet and that's speed. He's going to be moving around a lot which is also new to him.

    Wilder - Unpredictable. Can obviously hit hard but is very sloppy almost in the way he fights. You get hit your going to know about it though.

    Ortiz - Southpaw, dangerous and can also hit hard. I'd be very interested to see this fight.

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