Most effective MA for self-defense.

Gun fu. I shoot you, you don't rob me.

 

Muay Thai, Jiu Jitsu, Judo.

 

sambo****. One thing youll notice as you start training any form of martial arts is that people will avoid physical confrontations with you.

 

I think against an untrained opponent it doesn't really matter whether it's boxing, kickboxing, MMA, thai boxing et cetera.

 

Not really, most martial arts are a joke that don't work and are just choreographed play fighting for geeks who think Bruce Lee is the greatest fighter of all time. You can get a black belt or even become a Dan or master in things like Kung Fu and Karate without being able to fight your way out of a wet paper bag.

In fact, the **** that gets taught in these McDojos by these clowns is actually going to detrimental, not helpful in a real fight and is often down right irresponsible.

 

How many times have we got to debunk this? Boxers get owned INA REAL FIGHT!

 

I'm not on about things like wrestling, jiu jitsu etc I'm on about bs martial arts like Wing Chun, Karate and Kung Fu. The vast majority of people who practice these things cannot fight for sh*t and have usually never had a real fight in their lives.

Oh, and boxing is plenty good enough to beat the average untrained person in a "real" fight.

 

halitosis and flatulence are effective

 

I thought you were trolling at first, but when I was a kid I trained Taek Wan Doe for a while and before signing up for a class we had to go through 3 different schools because the first 2 were just like you said basically "choreography"

There are legitimate Karate, taek wan doe, etc etc... That incorporate sparring and effective techniques you just have to find them.

Same goes for boxing... you have to find a good teacher.

 

Agreed.

 

There's good and bad in everything.

Hell, you can go to some Boxing gyms and get the worst pad work (or next to none), "spar" against random dudes and learn nothing too!

 

Yea you're right mate, Duran, Tyson, Liston, Dempsey, Marciano, Benn, LaMotta, Louis, and so on, all them guys are pussies outside the ring. My sister could beat them up no probs :good

 

How common is that though in comparison to something like Karate dojos?

 

"Boxing is useless in a real fight" is no truer a statement (but far more overused) than "wrestling (or jiu-jitsu, or karate, or krav maga, or anything really with the possible exception of Muay Thai) is useless in a real fight".

If anything, having a strong base in boxing gives you more of an edge than anything else - though is by no means a guarantee of success in the chaotic environs of fighting in a non-sport rule-free context. (no discipline is)

People always point to how many "real fights" (mainly drunken pub brawls) end up on the ground, and use this as evidence that MMA techniques more closely mimic what you're likely to encounter in that situation. The reason those fights end up on the ground isn't because anyone is executing flawless shoots, though - rather it has something more to do with the combatants being drunk, or just ungainly, clumsy, and unused to fighting period. That is a false equivalency. In any 'real fight' where both parties involved aren't wildly swinging their way in until they collide and tumble awkwardly down in a messy heap, it usually ends with Party A connecting with their fist solidly on the chin of Party B, and rendering them unconscious or incapacitated enough so as to effect a satisfying conclusion.